Recommended clean (ish) non-fuzz effects?

[blackieNYC]

So I have fuzzes, ugly or wacky or smooth. And plenty of delays. A ring mod or two(let's call that "cleanish" in that it is not essentially a fuzz or OD or dist.). A nice sine/square tremolo, and a nice phase Royale, bought a line 6 digital flanger thing for fifty bucks, but what are some other clean effects? I have a non-working maestro S&H that I occasionally Pull out and curse at.  Freppo's sentient looks good. I hear a lot of talk about filters, but can't get past associating that with a Jerry Garcia sound that I don't particularly want. Is there something in there I'm missing? I'm not familiar with many of the classic cleanish effects. I haven't built a vibe yet. Thinking about the try-vibe or the easy vibe.
So what else is out there? Pretty, weird, whatever.

[GibsonGM]

+1 Easy Vibe. 

Filters...well, the '%^&*ed wah' type of mid hump doesn't have to be Trey or Jerry...it can also be Boston, Scorpions et. al.   Filters are IMO worth playing with, esp. in conjunction with those fuzzes and distortions you already have

Boosters are cool feeding tube amps, and there are many...everyone should have a Rangemaster and Mosfet boost, again IMO.  Whether you use it for blazing drive in the amp, or just to add shimmer...your call....

Build a tube preamp.  A low=voltage one, then one running on 350V     Plenty of designs out there for both! 

[Ben Lyman]

I just breadboarded the magna vibe, thanks to kipper4 for starting the thread: http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=113411.0
So easy and sounds cool, plus if you bypass one cap you get a cool tremolo as seen here 1:00 min into the vid

[blackieNYC]

The €%@$-Ed wah sound isn't the Jerry thing I'm talking about. I mean the Jerry auto-wah mutron thing. Like it, but don't want one.
Cleaner Drive-type stuff is a valid suggestion, but I'm looking for other ideas. 
One example I can think of is that I want to put together an LFO modulated bandwidth, but with a "random" LFO - a mix of two or three waveforms. Bit of a fake S&H. But hopefully easier. A parametric with the frequency pot replaced by an LDR. And an odd, or square waveform. Anyway,
So that's in my list. I really don't know what various filter circuits are about - are they all auto-wah sounding? Or maybe synthy?
The Magnavibe sounds a little subtle to me.  I know it does not t have the full sweep of a 4-stage.
Maybe I should try a gargletron or escobedo's vc filter (don't think that one has a sound sample)

[Transmogrifox]

Barberpole phaser or flanger.

I haven't seen schematics specifically for one, but if you can build 4 phasers and 4 tremolos you can probably hack one together. 

The easiest LFO scheme I can think of is a set of 4 synchronized ramp generators driving the phasers.  Then each LFO (ramp) goes into something of a rectifier folding the top of the ramp down into a triangle wave.  That drives the tremolo (amplitude modulator).

All 4 tremolo outputs are connected together through, say, 10k resistors feeding into an op amp inverting terminal and 10k resistor for feedback.

Tremolo goes in the chain AFTER the phaser to mute the ramp reset pop.

As we all hold our tongue in our cheek, I try to say "how hard can it be?"

I will say it would be a pretty big build since it's the equivalent of building 8 pedals....but oh how sweet  

I made one in software running realtime on Linux/Jack, and is pretty cool (I think).  The equivalent would be a really big analog project because it consists of 8 channels of state-variable filters (think 8 mutrons) and 8 channels of up to 12-stage phasers in stereo.  I think if you had a big stereo system this thing could make you puke.  My wife was feeling upset to her stomach with some sounds I was getting.

2:53 there's a little bit of clean-ish playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d35o1G1fMr8
This one I was really tweaking with recorded music showing off the crazy make-you-dizzy capabilities it has as a stereo effect.  To add all the features I put in software would be the size of a suitcase but it gives some ideas of what is possible.
6:10 is where it really takes off like a jet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzA3SYhKkIw

[merlinb]

A compressor. Ahem.
http://valvewizard.co.uk/engineersthumb.html

[blackieNYC]

Engineer's thumb is high on my list. Going to try to limit myself to the 2 knob version.
I'm thinking about wackier stuff. A vibe is a must. I think I'll breadboard some filter circuits and see what that's all about.
Barberpole flanger?  I'll build one, but, uh, darn! I don't see room for a stompswitch on yours.  I'll have to pass.
very cool by the way.

[GibsonGM]

It sounds like you already have a lot of projects to keep yerself busy, Blackie, LOL!   

By C(EKED wah type sounds, I'm only implying that you can make some stuff 'set and forget', if you're playing with filters.  You can add auto-wah type functionality, of course, or envelope control, both of which make things more complicated. But that's at your discretion, so feel free to experiment, of course you don't have to have "auto" anything.  I like the idea you mentioned about bandwidth controlled by LFO, that is do-able...

I was really talking about the most basic meaning of "filter"....to cut or peak a frequency, or band of frequencies...it's a starting point for whatever functions you'd like to apply to it...a building block you can take as far as you want or to within the limits of technology.    You probably won't be amazed by a BB of 1 or 2 basic filters...the magic (may) come when you invent a way to manipulate them, like your LFO bandwidth concept....I mostly just use filters for "fixing" a tone I don't think is right, or to get effects (to sound like Boston or a Santana solo, ha ha). 

[blackieNYC]

I've just breadboarded the trip-vibe from runoffgroove. It is magnificent!  So of course I've made two, the 2nd gets an inverted LFO. For stereo. Why not.
And I still have an LM13600 for an Engineer's thumb.  Or, would that be the circuit to use this one CA3080 I have laying around?

[thermionix]

Hey I have a 3080 lying around too.  What all can be done with it (other than a compressor)?

[Groovenut]

Cleaner Drive-type stuff is a valid suggestion, but I'm looking for other ideas.

quick simple effective http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=112317.msg1036454#msg1036454

[davent]

Here you go, copy and paste...

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[Groovenut]

Also have a look for the Jordan Vico Vibe

[blackieNYC]

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That's a very nice overdrive.  Mosfet junction/body diode clipping?
Just heard my dual channel tri-vibe in stereo pan mode. Wow. That gets a box. Lotta parts. Wish I had tried this with a magna vibe first! (not as good, but ok, and everything's awesome in stereo).
The Vico vibe - isn't that just a tremolo? LFO on the base of a transistor, source to ground, and collector is a single tap onto your otherwise untouched signal path. Or maybe the loading does a bit of filtering. Kinda cool. Like the "tiny tremoloooooooooo".  Not enough parts.

[Groovenut]

That's a very nice overdrive.  Mosfet junction/body diode clipping?

Yes, gives an asymmetrical clipping with a nice boost

[robthequiet]

otoh, I once had a Mutron III going into a Phase 90, and rather than ducks I got a really interesting hi-Q shimmering sweep, with subtle picking technique. Also used the Mutron in reverse quack but with the width set low, so it just darkened hard picked notes but cleaned up soft ones, so you get an auto-cleanup instead of auto-wah. That also worked for a neat overdrive effect (think John McLaughlin or Robert Fripp screaming tones). Maybe a subtle auto-filter going into a phase 100 for extra swish?