Wiring up two circuits into a single enclosure setup?

Started by Jbassfunk775, July 29, 2020, 11:36:55 PM

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Jbassfunk775

Hey guys, I need a bit of advice/guidance on making a "2 in 1" effect.. Basically I have a bunch of pcb & strip board fx I've built over time & about half as many enclosures (not to mention not enough pedalboard space).. And there are a number of circuits that either;

1) Have to potential to compliment each other nicely, like a 3 band active eq with mid freq & a TS-style or other low-mid gain overdrive circuit. Or ~>

2) Two similar fx that sound great & are useful on their own but you wouldn't want to run at the same time. For example, I built a Demeter Fat boost & an ep-boost clone. Both are wonderful do different things well but they're both higher voltage/headroom clean boosts with fairly full eq . The 2 circuits would be great to have in a box where I can either select them individually via individual foot-switches, or even just selectable with a 2 way toggle or similar..

I'm familiar with one of the diy project pcb sites having breakout boards available for doing this (guitarpcb.com I think?) but any input you guys have id absolutely appreciate!!

11-90-an

Just wire the output of one effect to the input of the other... then each effect has true bypass... just think about it as REHOUSING 2 pedals to a new home.. :icon_biggrin:

Each circuit's 9v power should have a 100 ohm resistor to the 9v power supply to decouple the circuit, and maybe add some caps to after the resistor to filter out some noise or something like that...  ::)
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antonis

Quote from: 11-90-an on July 30, 2020, 12:19:14 AM
Just wire the output of one effect to the input of the other...

Interesting enough..
(could you post a draft schematic, plz..??) :icon_mrgreen:

P.S.
Resistors don't decouple anything..
(capacitors do it..)
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bushidov

I don't know your exact scenario, but I can give you an example of one of mine.

I made two PCB effects. One was a simple, three knob, PT2399 delay and the other was a simple, two knob, AccuTronics Belton Brick style reverb. I would typically run them at the end of my signal chain, delay first, reverb second. I did tend to notice that I'd keep both effects on, but would adjust the volume of either effect and leave it that way. And I noticed I typically was wanting them either both on, or both off. So I eventually made a new PCB which was just both effects together in series with one true-bypass switch.

Schematic for Delay:


Schematic for Reverb:


Schematic for "both together":


I don't know if this was the "right" way to do it, but it worked for me.
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11-90-an

Quote from: antonis on July 30, 2020, 06:00:57 AM
Quote from: 11-90-an on July 30, 2020, 12:19:14 AM
Just wire the output of one effect to the input of the other...

Interesting enough..
(could you post a draft schematic, plz..??) :icon_mrgreen:

P.S.
Resistors don't decouple anything..
(capacitors do it..)

I was replying quickly because i had something to do afterwards :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:
Here: https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=24573.0

i was gonna say add some caps after the resistor.. didn't  know how to say it though... :icon_redface:
flip flop flip flop flip

MikeA

Here are some resources:

https://www.madbeanpedals.com/tutorials/downloads/MBP_FootswitchWiring.pdf  The last page shows one foot switch wiring option for a dual pedal to get you thinking, there are many other variations and I won't opine on which one's "best."  ;)

https://aronnelson.com/diywiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions_(DIY_FAQ)  Lotsa stuff about lotsa stuff.
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Jbassfunk775

Quote from: 11-90-an on July 30, 2020, 12:19:14 AM
Just wire the output of one effect to the input of the other... then each effect has true bypass... just think about it as REHOUSING 2 pedals to a new home.. :icon_biggrin:

Each circuit's 9v power should have a 100 ohm resistor to the 9v power supply to decouple the circuit, and maybe add some caps to after the resistor to filter out some noise or something like that...  ::)

Thanks! I love it when someone explains something by breaking things down their most basic form and suddenly a light bulb 💡 goes on and it's like "Ohhh Yeahh of course!"  :icon_smile:

Jbassfunk775

Quote from: bushidov on July 30, 2020, 06:18:40 AM
I don't know your exact scenario, but I can give you an example of one of mine.

I made two PCB effects. One was a simple, three knob, PT2399 delay and the other was a simple, two knob, AccuTronics Belton Brick style reverb. I would typically run them at the end of my signal chain, delay first, reverb second. I did tend to notice that I'd keep both effects on, but would adjust the volume of either effect and leave it that way. And I noticed I typically was wanting them either both on, or both off. So I eventually made a new PCB which was just both effects together in series with one true-bypass switch.

Schematic for Delay:


Schematic for Reverb:


Schematic for "both together":


I don't know if this was the "right" way to do it, but it worked for me.
Awesome thanks!!