True 'Breakout' boards for 3PDT switches?

Started by Viktor Von Doom, August 26, 2023, 03:07:43 PM

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Viktor Von Doom

Does anyone know of a proper 'breakout' style PCB for stomp switches?

I don't mean the standard true-bypass types that are quite common. I mean one that has through holes for mounting the switch, but then 9 solder pads for connecting directly to each corresponding switch lug. I have been looking around the 'webs, but can't seem to find anything like this commercially offered.

I truly hate wiring switches, and have a few Deadend boards coming my way that don't seem like they will play well with the TB style switch PCBs. I'd rather use a PCB and a ribbon cable.

If anyone knows where something like this can be found, please let me know. If not, I guess this might be the easy project I was looking for to self-learn PCB layout and design.

Thanks!

stallik

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Viktor Von Doom

No, not exactly.

That is for a true bypass style wiring.

I'm looking for something that just has all 9 lugs broken out to solder pads, with no internal connections on the board.


Thanks though

ElectricDruid

What exactly about the DeadEnd PCBs makes you say they won't work with the typical 3PDT PCBs? Perhaps we could help you work out a fix, rather than having to find a different PCB?

Viktor Von Doom

Hey, maybe the standard type will work. I don't know. I haven't received the boards yet, so I haven't been able to follow back the traces or poke around for continuity. But my hunch is based on the fact that they have a row of solder pads (9 in a row) to connect the switch to. No pads labeled "input," "output," etc. Just 9 numbered pads in a row.

And truthfully- I have wanted something like described in the past as well. PCBs are an easy way to get solid durable joints, but there are so many other ways a stomp (or toggle) switch can be useful. Also, this is probably the easiest board to design in the entire pedal universe, so it is a good opportunity to just make one and learn something new.

I've already finished the 'mechanical' end of the design. I made a CAD sketch based on a few switches I had on hand. Didn't take too long. In a little bit I'll try my hand at turning that into a PCB layout. Fingers crossed

bluelagoon

You mean like these ?








If these are what you are after, let me know, and where you live, if close by I could send you some over, I don't use these too often any longer, and have a large surplus of them gathering dust. Cheers

ElectricDruid

No! OP means a something that simply beaksout all nine pins to connections on the edge, *not* something that provides the usual bypass wiring on the PCB. We've done this already! (see post 2 and OP's post 3).

Viktor Von Doom

Quote from: bluelagoon on August 27, 2023, 07:36:25 AM
If these are what you are after, let me know, and where you live, if close by I could send you some over, I don't use these too often any longer, and have a large surplus of them gathering dust. Cheers

No, I'm after something different.

But that is a very kind offer. Thank you anyhow

bluelagoon

okay think i know what you are looking for now. Would be quite cheap to do a run of what you want from likes of JLCPCB, probably get a bunch of 100 for around $20

Viktor Von Doom

Yes, paying JL will be the easy part.

The hard part is wrapping my head around the Electronics Design workspace in Fusion.

But hey- you gotta start somewhere, right?

HybrisBehemoth

I've been looking for the same thing without result. Seems like DeadendFX has made them (picture). But as I understand it are not currently selling them.

After looking at the schematics it seems to me that you could use a common 3PDT bypass board and just connect to the relevant pads. But the layout of the connections seem to be different between some of the different designs making it less straight forward.

Anybody else who has used 3PDT bypass boards with DeadendFX boards? Or anyone with a design to use with a PCB-service to order a breakout like the one in the picture?


drdn0

Found anything yet? I can upload something to PCBWay for you to get made yourself if you'd like.

digi2t

I've talked to Phil, and we will start stocking them after our next order. 

I've spent some time lately, and you're right, nobody seems to have a "pin for pin" version.

TBH, I avoided using these for the longest time, since I believed that if the switch ever failed, it would be a much easier repair. I gave in in the end, opting for the extra board support it offers. Not to mention, I got tired of clipping and stripping little wires.
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Viktor Von Doom

Quote from: drdn0 on September 14, 2023, 04:41:22 AM
Found anything yet?

I have not. They are unobtainium as far as I can see.


Quote from: drdn0 on September 14, 2023, 04:41:22 AM
I can upload something to PCBWay for you to get made yourself if you'd like.

Thanks! that is a very kind offer

HybrisBehemoth

Second that!

I have spent hours searching. They are nowhere to be found.

An upload to PCBway would be much appreciated!  :)

Would definitely buy them with my PCBs from DEFX if you carry them in the future. 

bluelagoon

#15
Yeah they're comin, They're on the way, just landed in Sydney, and on the way to their next destination.

Will let you know when they are available. $1.50 AUD each and $11 AUD international postage for 10 pieces.





bluelagoon

#17
They're here.  If you want them. Come and get them.

As noted earlier $1.50 AUD each, Sold in lots of 10, So $15 AUD for a lot of 10 plus $13 Worldwide shipping

Sorry the shipping price blew out a bit further than first anticipated.


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