Where is an original fuzz face schem/with no copyrights?

[donald stringer]

I am building my own page and I am doing a project on the fuzz face. What I need is as early a copy of a fuzz face schem as possible with no copyrightsetc. Something that is free domain. There have been so many variations that it would be hard not to copy someones values,butpreferably I would like to get a copy of  THE original. I am thinking this circuit is pretty much an open target for any one,yes no maybe. I am putting a copy on my site. This doesnt even have to be a jimmy hendrix circuit, I believe that it went back way before that. I wonder if you can go to the us patents site and view it.

[Nasse]

I just read somewhere in this forum archhives or long ago post that the origin of schem was an application circuit in some semiconductor manufacturers data book, was it RCA or something, year was 1963, maybe. But that is not what you want, maybe.

But that application paper in full would be nice one to see. Even though I guess I dont understand not very much about it if I see...

[rocket]

I think you can just redraw any fuzz face schematic and put it on your site - e.g. from RG's technology of the ff paper.  There can't be a copyright on the schematic itself otherwise MXR(Dallas/Arbiter) would be busy sueing all the boutique FF builders.

If you just redraw a schematic, you find on the net, in my opinion there are no copyright issues (its not digital, after all
 )

If you just copy (and paste)  RG's or another person's fuzz face schematic (the schematic of the original DA germanium FF) you should ask for permission and give credit if you publish it, even if I doubt that in this case the copyright applies in a legal sense - it does apply in moral sense however.

[rocket]

you should also read the thread:
"Giving people credit and acknowledging them"
to get an idea how peolpe in this forum think about these issues.

[Nasse]

http://fclarke.softwareballistics.com/Distortion/CleanFace.html

There is that nice story, maybe this is somewhat like original application note or cookbook circuit.

If someone asks "how to get more distortion from this" I have one comment ready.

Beam me up, Scotty

[Thomas P.]

I believe that if there was a patent or something on the original Arbiter-FF it is now public domain since patents don't last longer than 30 years.
R.G. wrote this in his Neutron project text.
If you redraw the original schematic you don't breaking any laws, I believe.

[smoguzbenjamin]

If you're doing a FF project, just draw out the schematic you used, and put a line in it "based on the FF from ...." or "originally drawn by ...." etc.

It's not difficult and people aren't inclined to take it too harshly if you forget unless you claim that you thought of the whole thing yourself or you are making profit off it without a license. Mostly people forget out of haste more than anyhting else.

I don't think you should run into many problems if you give credit where it's needed

[brian wenz]

Hello Hello--
 Then again, the Fuzz Face circuit was "lifted" by Arbiter from the original Tonebender circuit [Sola or Vox].   The TB was around in the early 60's while the FF made it's debut in '66.  Gary Hurst [TB] probably developed his circuit from the same sources that people think Arbiter got it from.
This probably doesn't help the original topic [Hello Donald!] but it's interesting to chart the "progress" of this vintage circuit up 'til modern day.
Brian.

[Roland]

The fuzz face circuit is a standard current shunt amplifier. Use a search engine and pay particular attention to negative feedback circuits. You will find the fuzz face circuit is very popular in engineering circles and engineering texts and not surprising as it is a classic example.

Read about the true legend here:

http://www.wpi.edu/News/Journal/Spring96/feedback.html