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Started by crawler486, June 30, 2004, 02:14:00 AM

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Peter Snowberg

I really enjoy seeing pieces of other languages. I live in a place that was originally (as far as modern countries go) part of Mexico and then part of the U.S. These days I think about 50% of the population speaks Spanish so I'm very used to seeing Spanish and living in places with Spanish names. I speak  a tiny amount of Spanish and French but only enough to call myself a pencil or a giant duck in conversation. :D

I always enjoy seeing non proto-indo-european languages because they are so far removed from the structure I'm used to. It makes me appreciate how little I really do know.  :P

Je suis un canard giant.  :mrgreen:

Take care,
Peter Snöberg (I can't read one word of Swedish besides my last name, lefse, and ligon)
Eschew paradigm obfuscation

zener

Quote from: black mariah
Umm... how DO you pronounce that, anyway? Seriously, I wanna know. Is 'mg' similar to 'ng' in this usage?

I'm glad everything is cleared about the funny language thing :D .

Actually it is pronpunced as ma - nga. Try to imagine the sound of "ng" in "ing" of present progressive verbs. Remove the "i" and place "a" in front.  "nga"

"Mga" is the tag used with nouns to denote plurality. When you say guitars, we say "mga gitara" (gitara is for guitar, of course). Often, our language requires more letters and/or syllables to alter the tense or the form of a word.

Hey Ej, I knew that Audiophile. I thought it was just selling PA and other sound system/components. I also thought that it was already closed long ago. The location isn't kinda easy to be seen and reached by pedestrian or motorists.

Do you know the model of the Ibanez you're talking about. I want to search it on the web to have a first-hand look of it.

I saw a Floyd Rose bridge in JB, about P3,000. Damn, I envy the two of you (and crawler). New axes are within your reach. Money is flowing into your pocket unlike me who has nothing more to shed out of my pocket and still struggling to finish college with just ONE subject :shock: :(  .
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Hal

Quote from: Arno van der Heijden
Quote from: black mariahI don't know why, but I find the idea of a non-English language written only in English characters really funny.

What do you mean?
Ever heard of French, Spanish, German, or even Dutch language? All use 'English' characters... :?

You sound kinda unworldly to me.....

They all use the Latin alphabet :-D  Obviously, he meant a language that does not use the same alphabet.   Last night I carried on a conversation in hebrew with english letters...Its kinda amusing.  I know what he means :)

And yea, back on topic, one of my guitars cut out at the 17th fret.  I dont really mind it too much...most of my soloing takes place around the 5th - 14th fret.  The other one I like more for "metal" (aka jazz) solos, so i keep the action slightly higher.  But the one that cuts out is _so_ nice to play chords on, becuase its really low.

Wow, im not sure how comprehensible that was.  Moral: If you want/have good action, buzz/cutout is a tradeoff you might need to be willing to make.

edit: oops i didn't realize there was a second page.  Sorry if i just repeated stuff :-D

crawler486

Quote from: Arno van der Heijden
Quote from: black mariahI don't know why, but I find the idea of a non-English language written only in English characters really funny.

What do you mean?
Ever heard of French, Spanish, German, or even Dutch language? All use 'English' characters... :?

You sound kinda unworldly to me.....

guy..guys take it easy

wait till you here a heavy metal chinese band

zener

C'mon crawler, the language issue is over. Now, I want you to describe the Genesis a bit more. Maybe someone here can give you and idea how good (or bad) it is.

I really would want you to check out the P6,000 Ibanez Ej is talking about because the only guitar I know that is decent enough for P6,000 is that from RJ. After all, 2 RJ stores, Megamall and the Audiophile is just along Edsa. However, Ej didn't tell other specs like 22 or 24 frets, bridge type etc.

So I think you're choice is between RJ and that Ibanez.

Granting that the amount in your pocket won't be a consideration :wink:
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crawler486

Quote from: zenerC'mon crawler, the language issue is over. Now, I want you to describe the Genesis a bit more. Maybe someone here can give you and idea how good (or bad) it is.

I really would want you to check out the P6,000 Ibanez Ej is talking about because the only guitar I know that is decent enough for P6,000 is that from RJ. After all, 2 RJ stores, Megamall and the Audiophile is just along Edsa. However, Ej didn't tell other specs like 22 or 24 frets, bridge type etc.

So I think you're choice is between RJ and that Ibanez.

Granting that the amount in your pocket won't be a consideration :wink:

hmmm my original plan is only to dish out 3k for a 2nd hand guitar.
Now EJ has muddled my plan. It's tempting. 6k for an Ibanez.....
Pareng EJ, bilhin ko na lang nabili mo. 4,500 ok na? hehe

Anyway, I did not pursue the GenesiSeries guitar. Many recomended
RJ guitars. They say it's cheap but has good quality and the sound is comparable with high quality expensive US made guitars.

zener

I checked all the Ibanez guitars at music123.com and the cheapest H/S/H is a bit over $200. EJ said Gio guitars, maybe that is just a "sub-brand" under Ibanez brand. That could be the reason why it's only P6,000 ($110).

Just go for a brand new. After all, it seems that you can dish out P3,000 ($53-$55) more to get a new one and Ej offered to accompany you to those stores. Compare the Gio and whatever you can pick at RJ and tell me about it.

I'll follow as soon as I got a job, maybe a year or two later :roll: :wink:
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crawler486

Quote from: zener

Just go for a brand new. After all, it seems that you can dish out P3,000 ($53-$55) more to get a new one and Ej offered to accompany you to those stores. Compare the Gio and whatever you can pick at RJ and tell me about it.


Not really. Above 3,000 pesos will trigger a Wife Alert.  :shock:

zener

So, you're married already. You never told us. Is she scolding you for all these DIY stuff you've done. Something like
Quote(nagbubunganga) pambihira, inuna mo pa yang mga effects mo, wala pa tayong pambayad sa kuryente, sa tubig, walang grocery etc. tapos ngayon, bibili ka pa ng gitara. Anak ka ng *&^%! :mrgreen:

So, are you going to shed out P3000 more and trigger your wife to go berserk over that?  :twisted:  :mrgeen:

Damn, I really envy Ej and you especially now that my birthday is just around the corner :roll:

I bet you would surely love to have something like this: (and I certainly do)
http://www.music123.com/item/expandedimage.aspx?t=2&img=Ibanez/RG17ORBK_Ibanez.jpg&zimg=

That is the cheapest H/S/H Ibanez I saw in music123.com for $227, about P12,000.
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ejbasses

Hey  Zener man i aint got a lot of money. i just found good deal and bit the bullet. haha. It just turned out it was a good guitar.

Check out the ibanez website. The guitar im talkin bout is the grx40 COrrection its a 22 fretter. and HSS configuration.

The guitars around 6k-10k aint bad. actually i was droolin over em when my girlfriend was lookin for a new guitar. theyre pretty sweet man.

As for RJ guitars. they aint bad too. Great woods for the price. Just pick the best one in the lot coz some are relatively better than others.
Four Strings To Rule Them All And In The Darkness Bind Them

zener

Hey Ej, now that you said that it is a 22 fret and HSS pickups, I've lost my interest to it :? .

The first three things I want from a guitar (in order based on my preference):

24 frets
2 humbuckers
floating bridge

You know, Kirk H. loves bending over the 22nd fret and a 22-fret axe is just in the very edge, not enough room.

Have you seen the link I posted? I would love to have that.

Damn, how come that I keep on talking as if I'm the one who's going to buy a new guitar? Too much wishful thinking, dreaming while awake :shock: . Wake up Ner, wake up. You still got a thesis to make :? .
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petemoore

A very lo-fi technique I used for one low fret....two chisels two tap hammers, two guys in unisen [count the rythm 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2,], under both sides of the low fret, the chisels bevel almost flush with the fretboard...popped that LP Specials low fret right up a 'hinch'...played perfect after...[add a little cyanoacrylic adhesive?] as I said, very lo-fi, but also very quick and effective...sure beat taking meat off all the nearby or all the other frets, and fixed the problem...don't try this at home [lol].
 Dan Erlewine's "Guitar Repair Method" book...a very good read to do when starting to think about frets and redressings.
 I "SMASHED down a high fret down by applying a 'soft anvil' under the neck and high fret, hammering a chunk of matched radius hardwood into the fret...dropped it right down...another don't try unless you got guts technique....worked pretty good [before I got>], now I have the various length straight edges and files, and fret crowning file needed to do 'contemporary' fret leveling techniques.
 I just thought you might get a kick out of my 'Lo-Fi, don't try at home or on your prized possesion' techniques.
 Sometimes the guitar is worth less than the trouble it takes to work it into playability using conventional methods....then I say 'get the hammers out!".  Sneaky 'I don't know/care' techs do the trick kwik {IME]...if you dare....if you don't like / Dont use.
 Dan E.'s book tells you the easy 'right way' to do it, but you'll need the tools.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

zener

The fret wires from 19 to 23 fret of my guitar are shaved almost flat by a chisel only below the 1st and 2nd string. I did so just because of a nasty buzz in the 19th fret. No buzz now, it was worth the effort although I accidentally scratched one fret with the chisel when it slid off the fret wire.
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ejbasses

Yeah pete your right the best tools can mean a great playing guitar or a botched job. I cant keep track of how many things i wrecked just because i used the wrong tools.

Zener if your jonesin for that thing then your gonna be jealous of my girlfriend. Shes waitng on the delivery of a new Ibanez RG370dx. its got HSH pups floating bridge white binding and shark tooth inlays. haha

Yaman no? Im getting excited. haha

Dont you just love talkin bout axes man?!
Four Strings To Rule Them All And In The Darkness Bind Them

zener

A delivery of an ala-Jackson inlays H/S/H Ibanez axe? From where, online?

So this one, huh?

http://www.music123.com/item/expandedimage.aspx?t=1&img=Ibanez/90352.jpg&zimg=Ibanez/90352.jpg

$332, close to P20,000 :shock: .  That's three RJ guitars already. I bet if ever she will see my guitar, she'll turn it into a boat paddle or worse, a woodfire if ever she'll go camping.

Wow! :shock:  Can she be my girlfriend too? :lol:  :mrgreen:  She got to be playing something heavy, man :twisted: . Is she a rocker too?

Kung alam ko lang kung sino ang magdedeliver nun, hi-hijackin' ko yung sasakyan nun :twisted:  :mrgreen:[/img]
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ejbasses

Hands Off shes mine! hahaha

Yeah thats one bad ass guitar. Yeah she listens to rock. shes really into emo right now. so i think thats what shes gona be playing

Try to be open to other types of music. One guitarist i really love is Hendrix. Hes kinda my fall back guy when i get tired of listening to other stuff..

'Scuse me while i kiss the sky......
Four Strings To Rule Them All And In The Darkness Bind Them

zener

Quote from: ejbassesHands Off shes mine! hahaha

Don't worry, I'm nice and I don't bite. :lol:  It's not your girl I want to put my hands into, it's her axe. Keep the girl, I'll keep the axe   :lol: :mrgreen:  

With all the things I've done and failed to do in college, I've lost interest with girls, ya know.  :roll: :mrgreen:

Damn, it seems we've hijacked this thread and kept this for just you, I and crawler. Of course, anybody is still welcome to add anything here to make it more colorful. We Filipinos just love to talk this way :D .

BTW, you didn't tell where the axe will be coming from? So, where? How much? I would love to see a pic of her holding the axe or just at least the axe as it reaches your place. Makes me envy more. :wink:

Actually, I am and I'm not open. I'm open to other heavy metal (the real thing, not those nu-metal crap) acts but not to other music genre. The only thing I consider as a barrier to explore new things is TIME. as what is true woth other people. How I wish I can add few hours more to the 24hrs/day.
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