Schematic check !?!?!?!?!

Started by Dragonfly, April 06, 2005, 02:16:21 AM

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Dragonfly

here's a design for a fuzz pedal that i came up with..i havent built it yet (gotta get some 10k pots:) ), but could be pretty cool...and a pretty easy build too.  anyway, i was hoping you guys could look it over and see if you can identify any "trouble spots".... once the design is finalized, i'll post the schematic in the "layouts forum"  :)

http://aronnelson.com/gallery/Dragonfly-FX-Schematics-%21/DRAGONFLY_FX_DEVILS_RIGHT_HAND?full=1

as always, suggestions and comments are ALWAYS welcome !

thanks in advance !

Andy

Oliver

Hi,

as i played around with the LM386 and the LittleGem Circuit i noticed, that
the Gainpot don't have to be bigger than just 2K...

Thats because at the Pins 1 and 8 of the IC there is an integrated Resistor of 1.35K.
With a 2 or 3 K Pot You will have a "Gainrange" about the complete range of the Pot. With 5 or 10K There is only a little Part of the adjustment range of the Pot.

And it's interesting to play with a Cap in Series with the "Dirt" Pot..
That has influence of the Frequency in the Distortion.
For the LittleGem i used a 2.2uF with good result (perhaps try for your taste)

bye
Oliver
Only dead Fishes go with the flow... >-))))-°>

Dragonfly

Quote from: OliverHi,

as i played around with the LM386 and the LittleGem Circuit i noticed, that
the Gainpot don't have to be bigger than just 2K...

good to know...i figured i might go with a 1k, but decided a 10k was "safer"...but on your suggestion, maybe i'll go with a 2k pot...
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Thats because at the Pins 1 and 8 of the IC there is an integrated Resistor of 1.35K.
With a 2 or 3 K Pot You will have a "Gainrange" about the complete range of the Pot. With 5 or 10K There is only a little Part of the adjustment range of the Pot.

makes sense....

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And it's interesting to play with a Cap in Series with the "Dirt" Pot..
That has influence of the Frequency in the Distortion.
For the LittleGem i used a 2.2uF with good result (perhaps try for your taste)

i had considered a 10uF in series...going by memory (from a while back), it seems like that was the datasheets recommendation...but like i mentioned, thats *memory*, so i'm probably mistaken... :D

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bye
Oliver

thanks for your input !

andy

Oliver

Hi,

You cant damage the IC by shorting the PINS 1 and 8 so try out Potvalue as you like.... I used 1K but with that i couldn'd turn it to clean sound.
So i took the next step up = 2K2 with good result for my taste.

As in the Datasheet - they say - using a 10uF Cap - i tried several caps and came to the 2.2uF as my favorite  :D

The LM386 leaves much place for experiments  :wink:

cu
Oliver
Only dead Fishes go with the flow... >-))))-°>

lightningfingers

instead of having the oscillation pot going from output to input, maybe try puting from output to pin 7, I got better oscillation control like that..
U N D E F I N E D

Dragonfly

Quote from: lightningfingersinstead of having the oscillation pot going from output to input, maybe try puting from output to pin 7, I got better oscillation control like that..

hmmm....pin 7, huh ? thanks for the tip....

andy

j0shua

Quote from: Dragonflyhere's a design for a fuzz pedal that i came up with..i havent built it yet (gotta get some 10k pots:) ), but could be pretty cool...and a pretty easy build too.  anyway, i was hoping you guys could look it over and see if you can identify any "trouble spots".... once the design is finalized, i'll post the schematic in the "layouts forum"  :)

http://aronnelson.com/gallery/Dragonfly-FX-Schematics-%21/DRAGONFLY_FX_DEVILS_RIGHT_HAND?full=1

as always, suggestions and comments are ALWAYS welcome !

thanks in advance !

Andy


Hmmmm ya like to play whit LM386 to hehehehehe, Dragon you are using the Negative Imput , try also use the IC pin 3 (+) for imput and pin # 2 to ground , and the 10K resistor from battery to Fet , you can put a socket to try diferent resistors ( 7.5k ,10k, 12.5k, 15 k , and 8.2k )  :)....

j0shua

damm my PC restart alone ......

hmmmm you can put 5K pot from IC Pins 1-8 ( dirt ) if you put more value , need to dicipate more heat from IC pin 7 , or use heatsink or thermal paste .... or Fan cooler ;)

oh yeah the clasic mod :D ---> switching diodes Led's & Germanium

Btw Check the PM i send to you :)

Dragonfly

Quote from: j0shua


Hmmmm ya like to play whit LM386 to hehehehehe, Dragon you are using the Negative Imput , try also use the IC pin 3 (+) for imput and pin # 2 to ground ,

any particular advantage that you can think of for using the non-inverting input over the inverting input, or vice-versa ?

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and the 10K resistor from battery to Fet , you can put a socket to try diferent resistors ( 7.5k ,10k, 12.5k, 15 k , and 8.2k )  :)....

i'll probably just use a 20k trimmer on the test run, just to be able to dial it in a bit better

andy

Dragonfly

Quote from: j0shuadamm my PC restart alone ......

hmmmm you can put 5K pot from IC Pins 1-8 ( dirt ) if you put more value , need to dicipate more heat from IC pin 7 , or use heatsink or thermal paste .... or Fan cooler ;)

i think i'll probably use a 1k in the tester...just to see where that gets me. i'd imagine that i'll get plenty of fuzz even without pins 1 and 8 connected, just from the shunted diodes...but it'd be nice to make the sound even "uglier" :)

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oh yeah the clasic mod :D ---> switching diodes Led's & Germanium

i'll probably keep the pair of germs, but i'd considered having the 1N914 switchable to a LED .....

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Btw Check the PM i send to you :)

i'll go check it in a few :)

thanks Joshua,
 Andy

j0shua

Pin 2 of LM 386 cool. when you shot the IC pin#2 whit the FET BLOW LIKE HELL hehe, ver good distortion , and you can change the taste by de 2M2 Resistor , if you use 4M7 can be a mess distortion! and the 120 Pf can up to 150 or 200 Pf to gain more fat sound!




cheers!