wich reverb and delay should i build?

Started by birt, April 07, 2005, 06:32:32 AM

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birt

i'm looking for projects that don't use too many components (i'm kinda low on cash).

what is a good and simple reverb? (or is there a good and cheap one i can buy?)

and what about delay? is there a diy tap tempo delay?
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travissk

Depending on what you want in a reverb, both of those things will probably be digital, and you

The tap tempo delay would best be done using a microcontroller for the tap logic. If you have uC programming background, great, if not, then I don't think anyone has a premade project with tap tempo (search the forums for tap tempo, there was a discussion ~3 weeks ago?). If you're willing to invest some time and hack it out, you'll learn a lot in the process, but if time is short as well as cash, I'd advise against it, from an opportunity cost standpoint.

I'm not an expert on the huge range of gear out there, but I assume you want something in pedal format, especially for the delay.

Reverb - check ebay for the alesis Nanoverb or Picoverb (not a stomp, but small and cheap). Also check out the Zoom Reverb pedal (507?) and the Digitech DigiVerb. And ethics aside, Behringer will be releasing a reverb pedal in the next couple months that will have an MSRP of $35 (meaning street price of $30 or so). I might look into that one, so long as the buffers sound ok.

Note: people have been saying that the Behringer reverb pedal is a Boss RV-series clone, because the rest of the pedal line is, but to be honest my guess is that it uses the same reverb that's in one of their other units, as opposed to a copy of Boss'. That's not necessarily a bad thing; I spent about 2 hours with a Behringer Virtualizer rackmount unit in a studio once and thought the reverbs sounded pretty decent. The rest of the line is probably straight Boss copies, but in this case, why reinvent the wheel?

Scratch that, why copy a wheel when you've already made copies of other  wheels? :D

Delay - There's more of a selection here, and there's probably a lot of people around who can talk about this better than I (Colin?). The Digitech one is pretty good, and don't overlook the plastic Danelectro PB&J delay pedal. If you're really into delay, something like the Boss GigaDelay pedal or the Line 6 DL-4 is nice, but might break your budget (I'm assuming "low on cash" doesn't mean "my budget is $200"). In between are some Boss delay stomps.

And Behringer has a delay pedal coming out too.
http://www.behringer.com/DD100/index.cfm?lang=ENG
Once again, probably around $30, and from the look of things the Delay might be straight out of the Virtualizer, as opposed to a Boss copy. Also, watch out - that one doesn't specificially say tap tempo.

Finally, consider a multi-fx unit - even something older like the Digitech RP-12 has some good reverbs and multi-tap delays (though watch out, the rp-12 doesn't have tap tempo). Plus, you'll get some added benefits like patch selection, pitch shifters, etc.

petemoore

I'm using an RV-3
 ...or an Art Proverb
 RV-3 is versatile, does long echoes 'ok' [I guess, since it's my long delay], probably is a point with less than 'herculain' strength, that link in the chain, tho it pulls echoes out, could certainly be improved upon by throwing money [and time] at it...a tape echo would shelve it I think. But in general I use it and consider passable and hard to do without.
 It works pretty good for a 'base reverb' sound as long as I keep the mix knob not too high.
 The ProVerb, does a pretty 'compplex' sounding reVerb, not much in the long echo dept. [I think it's more of a "Mix a huge variety of shorter echoes to make reverb" thing'].
 Either one of these units, IME, when dialed to 'actually hear' a thick bright echo, sound thin or 'pingy'....like the tone of your signal is 'over there'.
 Here's teh best echoes ever concieved IMO.
 A Damp Cave
 a shiny brick Hall with a large chamber at the end of it...like a school hall with the doors to the Gym open.
 'Many' Mics, placed further and further back from the source and mixed.
 A tube driven tape echo, freshly cleaned, retaped, aligned, biased...etc.
 ...I don'[t think I've tried analog echoes.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

birt

i just found out onerr has a stompbox tap tempo delay wich seems to be good bang for the buck :D

http://www.onerr.com/eng/home.asp (DGD-2)
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gonzo

I think yall need a Roland Space Echo....

Spring Reverb, Tape Delay made some of the trippiest King Tubby and Lee Perry tracks around....

Ebay it.

birt

Quote from: gonzoI think yall need a Roland Space Echo....

Spring Reverb, Tape Delay made some of the trippiest King Tubby and Lee Perry tracks around....

Ebay it.

i don't think so, i want something a little cheaper :lol:
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