OT: opamp Bass preamp for recording?

Started by C Bradley, August 25, 2005, 12:28:32 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

C Bradley

I just bought a Yamaha MG10/2, and my P-bass doesn't sound all that good when I plug straight into the board. I bought the bass, but never bought an amp for it. :roll: I've been playing it at low volumes through my DIY Marshall with 1 x 15" speaker cab on the clean channel.

What I want to do is use a dual opamp like a 1458 or a TL082 and create a clean preamp with bass, middle, & treble controls, as well as a volume control. I'd run this straight into one of the line inputs of my mixer (-10 dbu). I'm not too familiar with bass preamps, but I seem to recall that some of them have hi-mid and lo-mid controls for a 4-band EQ. That may be an option, depending on how small the circuit board is. I'd like to try and fit it all inside a Hammond 1590BB (large size?) box. I'm not opposed to using a power transformer and building a 15V or higher power supply, but it will take up a lot of space inside the chassis and introduce noise I'll have to deal with.
Chris B

Got Fuzz?

ejbasses

Hi. try looking at the boss FA-1 then replace the EQ section with a three band EQ from albert kreuzer's preamp design. I just built a FA-1 using the plans from the Ustomp website (thanks steve) and it sounds good. I think even the Stock FA-1 will sound good on bass. I think this will fit on a pedal and will run on 9V. I plan on doing something similar to this once i get some parts.

Any body else please put their suggestions like switches and other mods
Four Strings To Rule Them All And In The Darkness Bind Them

Dave_B

Have you tried Don Tillman's preamp?  http://www.till.com/  It's extremely simple to construct, and it helped the direct sound of my Ricky.  I housed it in a box, not my guitar FWIW.

There's also the 360+.  I've not built it, but it's got some fans so I've added it to my long list.  http://www.lynx.bc.ca/~jc/pedals360.html
Help build our Wiki!

majormono

I guess by "straight into board" you mean DI (if not it's no wonder it sounds bad ;-)?
The problem is that good Bass preamps are rather complicated and would need at least sweepable mids (that's why I play Bass by DI and use the parametric EQ on my board) if you ask me.
On the other hand I'm lazy and once build a super simple preamp with just a buffer and customized BMP-style tonestack which does the job not too bad, especially combined with a bassified OS compressor (which I put in the same box).

It's a one-trick pony but when it fits it's nice.
http://www.grol.de/diy/Basspre.gif

Well, I'm no real bassist but for me it does the occasional job...

hairyandy

Believe it or not, one of the best DI bass preamps that I've ever used is the Hughes & Kettner Tubeman.  There's got to be a schematic for that thing floating around someplace...
Andy Harrison
It's all about signal flow...
Hairyandy's Layout Gallery

seanm

I use a SansAmp Bass Driver DI when I go straight to a mixer. I have never seen a schematic for one however.

David

Quote from: majormonoThe problem is that good Bass preamps are rather complicated and would need at least sweepable mids (that's why I play Bass by DI and use the parametric EQ on my board) if you ask me.

Say what?   :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:

A bass preamp is no more complicated than a guitar preamp!  You set the filtering on the input differently to account for the lower frequencies, that's all.  It doesn't NEED sweepable mids, but the capability is handy to have...

C Bradley

Quote from: majormonoI guess by "straight into board" you mean DI (if not it's no wonder it sounds bad ;-)?
Doh!  :x  I forgot about my Behringer Ultra-DI box.  :roll: I tried it last night and it made a world of difference. I think it'll do the job, along with the 3-band EQ on the mixer. The +48V phantom power feature is nice too; it gives me another 9V for my pedals. :wink:

Brain-fart.  :oops:
Chris B

Got Fuzz?

majormono

Well if you got excellent Equipment that sounds spot-on you really don't need parametric mids - but my real life experience is that you need it to counter the rumble in the lower mids (300-500Hz).
But that's just me and I have to admit that my bass is crappy, if you can go without - congratulations ;-).
I really love the SVP Preamp I had some time ago, mhhhh!