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Started by Axeman88, May 14, 2006, 08:37:01 PM

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Axeman88

Hi everyone,
Well it looked liked I finished my first build without any problems!  :icon_biggrin: Then I noticed something wrong with the delay control pot!  :icon_sad:

Here is the basic info:
1. This is the Rebote 2.5
2. The problem is with the "delay control" pot. {50k 16mm pot}

I noticed something didn't seem right with the delay control so I checked to make sure my board connections to the pot was good. Ahhh Haaa!
Here was something I didn't expect. Apparently when I soldered the 22 gauge connecting wire to the pot after soldering it to the board. I put a little to much pressure on the connection to the board. IT lifted the copper trace and solder connection completely off the board!  So Now I am totally bummed.

BUT I got to looking & noticed that the ground connection from the pot is using the SAME trace.
(If you have a copy of the layout you will see which 2 connections to the 50k pot I am talking about. )

So I got to thinking. Since they are already on the same trace. I should be able to run a piece of left over lead wire from the solder connection that lifted off the board, {which is the connection on the far left  of the 50k pot}, to the ground connection, {which is the center connection of the 50k pot}, that is still attached to the trace on the board. That should allow the lifted connection to use the lead wire (jumper) as a trace directly to the still good trace that the ground connected too. Right?

Now since this is my first build, I thought I better run this past a few knowledgable ppl here before I actually put power to it again. I don't want to fry something because I  overlooked something stupid!

So could anyone here with more knowledge about this than me, (pretty much everyone here!), plz take a look at the layout & then let me know if that would work?

Here is a link to the layout. Click Here

Now the solder connection that lifted off is the connection on the far left of the 50k pot. (Just above the green Gnd connection.)
The connection I am running the "jumper" to is from the far left connection that lifted off the board to the center connection of the 50k pot.
You can't tell but it is a square connection. (you can't tell because it has the word "Delay" over the top of it. BUT if you look to the far right of the layout where it says "Ready to Transfer" you can see the trace better.)

So what do you all think??
I really hope this will work ok!

Hate to have ruined my first build because of lifting a single trace off the board...  :icon_frown:
What can't be fixed with Knowledge, Wisdom and perseverance, can be pounded into little flattened pieces with a 5 lb sledge!

mdh

Rest assured that you're far from screwed. This will be an easy enough thing to fix.

QuoteBUT I got to looking & noticed that the ground connection from the pot is using the SAME trace.
(If you have a copy of the layout you will see which 2 connections to the 50k pot I am talking about. )

OK, from looking at the layout you're using, you're either understanding or describing this a bit incorrectly. If I understand what you're trying to say, you're confusing the blue traces connected to the delay pot on the component layout out with ground. They are not connected to ground. But I suspect that you did wire things correctly. The layout has the wiper (middle) lug of the pot connected to the square pad, and the clockwise lug (possibly numbered 3 on the outside of the pot) wired to the pad that's connected to the wiper's pad by a trace. So you can just wire lug 3 to the wiper, and one of those two lugs to the remaining pad on the board. In fact, since it's a linear pot wired as a variable resistor, you can connect either of the outer lugs to the wiper, but your rotation may end up backwards.

All that is to say that if you did what I think you did, you should be fine.

Axeman88

I see what you are saying. And yes I did wire it exactly as the layout shows.

BUT what I did was take a piece of lead wire that I cut off of a resistor & soldered it from the wiper (center position) to the left position along the board since they both used the same trace.
Now from what I read from your post, I could have just ran both of the wires to the center position on the board & soldered them together there right?

I guess my question now is. Will my "jumper" thing I have already done work ok? Or should I remove it & just solder the 2 connections together like you suggested?

Thanks for the reply. I can't wait to here this thing once it is finished again!  :icon_biggrin:
What can't be fixed with Knowledge, Wisdom and perseverance, can be pounded into little flattened pieces with a 5 lb sledge!

mdh

As long as it's a sound electrical and mechanical (i.e., it won't get twisted apart when you stuff everything into the enclosure, then yeah, it should be fine.  Looking at the schematic again, the connection between the outer lug and the wiper isn't even electrically necessary, as long as the wiper and the other lug are connected to the board properly. Just the same, I guess the pot may pick up noise if that connection isn't made, so it's best to make it. Shouldn't matter whether it's made via a trace/jumper on the board, or a direct connection between the pot lugs.

Axeman88

Thanks man.  ;D

I can't wait to try it tomorrow. Way to late here right now. Don't think the family would be to happy if I woke them all up trying to hear it right now.  :icon_lol:

So I will post here tomorrow & let you know how it turmed out.  :icon_wink:
What can't be fixed with Knowledge, Wisdom and perseverance, can be pounded into little flattened pieces with a 5 lb sledge!