Parallell caps popless switching in a 301 flanger question

Started by Morocotopo, August 03, 2006, 12:03:16 PM

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Morocotopo

Hi,I´m about to populate a 301 flanger (project at Tonepad). I read in another post about a mod to get a (s)lower LFO speed range: change caps C125/C126 to higher capacitance (10uF to 22uF). I want to make this mod switchable, BUt with no pops (always the perfectionist...). In another post I read this:
(don´t know how to quote from another post...)
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Post: Ross Phaser, Univibed - Stop popping when switching modes? 

From R.G:

(...)There are actually two ways to do popless capacitor switching, and I only add this one for completeness. If you have two capacitors in parallel and open/close one of them, you get popping because the open cap leaks down a bit when it's open. The solution in this case is our old friend, the pulldown resistor. Only, used this way, it's more of a pull sideways resistor.
The way you do this is to call one of the caps the primary cap; this one is always in the circuit. In parallel with the primary cap is the secondary cap in series with a 1M or so resistor. The switch "shorts out" the 1M resistor, and when it does, the total capacitance becomes the parallel capacitance of the primary and secondary caps.
Actually, you can put 1Ms in series with *both* caps and alternately short one or the other 1M resistor; this is the same as a selector switch to select one or the other cap, but without the popping. Generally, one cap is left as a "primary" cap, because this saves one throw on the switch. This also works with rotary switches. But then the series string of caps does too if you just hook a rotary up to each node of a string of caps and get fancy about setting up the cap values in series.
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So, here´s my implementation of R.G´s explanation. Could you tell me wich one (A or B) is right? Or both wrong? Are the resulting capacitance values correct? Also, the "added" cap should have the same orientation as the other one if it´s a polarized one, right? By the way, the values in the image are not the ones in the flanger, just an example.



Thanks in advance

Morocotopo
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slacker

I think B is right. Your cap values are correct and yeah polarised caps should have the same orientation.

Morocotopo

Thanks slacker, i´m gonna experiment with it, hope I don´t burn anything!  ::)
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Morocotopo

By the way slacker, sometime I´ll try your slackfilter! any mods/additions to what you posted? was there a PCb? can´t remember...
Morocotopo

Torchy

Why would there be a difference between A and B ?
Both the same and both correct to my eyes.

Morocotopo

So it doesn´t matter whether the R is after or before the cap? I don´t quite get it...my little, little brain cells...  ::) have to do more reading.
Thanks Torchy
Morocotopo