This has me scratching my head??? NKT275's

[analogmike]

I read a post a while ago were someone came across these very same marked versions of the NKT-275. Who's to say that they are any different than those found in a '67 fuzzface?

Me.

Go ahead and try to sell one with those transistors, it's not correct. I have seen over 100 old fuzzfaces and they ALL have had the exact same style NKTs. I often do appraisals and one without the original style transistors will get a very low value.

Sorry to disagree but as there is ONLY ONE correct pickup for your sunburst there is only one style NKT275 transistor for a 1967 fuzzface.

[vanessa]

I thought we were talking about NKT-275 transistors not resale values of effects made with them? What I was disputing was your claim that all the rest that you have seen were fakes. My argument is why would someone want to make a fake in 1967 of a transistor that is commonly available? Maybe Newmarket had other manufacturers? Maybe they labeled runs differently? Maybe Dallas Arbiter bought up one run of say 10,000 units and those where all labeled the same way, where as the ones found in my friends vintage transistor radio (and others have found on this forum) were from a prior run. Both made to the same specs and production means.
I recently bought some AVX caps that were a different color than ones I bought in the past of the same value. They sounded identical (to my ears) to the other ones and I'm sure they are with the exception of cosmetics.
I'm just saying that you can not just write off some of these as being fakes just because they do not look like the ones found in a particular run that made it into the vintage fuzz faces. They may or may not have that 'mojo' but it does not mean they are fakes.

[R.G.]

I think the two of you are passionately arguing different points.

In the electronics industry sense, any device meeting the datasheet specifications for an NKT275 might as well be called that, regardless of who made it or when.

In the archeological sense, only a specific style and brand of transistors, made by a specific company between certain dates is "original" in a specific brand of effect.

Those are quite different concepts.

Disagreements where each side is in fact absolutely correct within the confines of their own context will continue until one party dies or leaves the field for other reasons. That is why wars of religion are so vicious - each side is absolutely sure (and correct within the confines of their beliefs) that a diety is on their side.

[Dai H.]

right, different specific points. The "right" NKT275 as seen in numerous old Fuzz Faces vs. a legit NKT275 made by or for the same manf. Tube manfs. sourced out the manf. of tubes to different factories, Philips to factories in India, Japan, Brazil, or wherever, (plus it's the same today isn't it w/semiconductors?) so why not Newmarket? It's hard to say with absolute certainty with old stuff unless you have good info, for example, I have a Telefunken 12AL5 (just a cheap small signal rectifier tube) with no diamond mark which looks the same internally (the plates) as the Tele 6AL5/EAA91s I have that do have the diamond mark. Similar to here in that unlike say with 12AX7s, I see no reason for anyone to fake a Telefunken 12AL5 threrefore no reason to believe it isn't legit even if it is without the usual marker of authenticity (the diamond in the base).

[mac]

Disagreements where each side is in fact absolutely correct within the confines of their own context will continue until one party dies or leaves the field for other reasons. That is why wars of religion are so vicious - each side is absolutely sure (and correct within the confines of their beliefs) that a diety is on their side.

And sometimes both sides do not recongnize that they share the same god and roots.


mac