"A little background hiss" - 2 Umble build reports

Started by zjokka, March 26, 2007, 11:51:50 AM

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zjokka

I finished my second Umble today and it went so much smoother than anything I build before... on the DMM that is.
The first time around, I just couldn't get the last FET (I used J201) to bias right but adjusted that by ear. In that way I could dial out a bit of noise. I remembered that when boxing it up the noise level when down quite a bit.

Now with my second built all Ds baised right and easily at 4.5V but the noise again was incredible. Tone and sustain. I only tried it on a tiny practice amp, but could put the volume up anywhere near half unless I put the little amp under '1'.

Also, ROG article says there is some background hiss, but I don't hear that in the clip.


Could this noise come from

-having the pots mounted temporarily on a breadboard
-alligator clips galore
- long leads all around (5 pots (15 wires) in addition to in and out, + & -
- bad soldering if the circuit checks out ok on the values?
- not using metal film resistors? I did measure every resistor and put them some in series to have matching values. Is there really a sonic difference between a metal film 100k and two series carbon resistor that make up the same value

In the first build I succeeded in getting the noise and gain down somewhat by using a 2N5457 for Q1 (J201s for the others) but that was after I couldn't get 4 j201s to bias right.

I was also wondering whether anybody had ever tried running these amp simulations at higher voltages? would that help the noise or exactly the opposite?

thanks!
zj

nordine

check for bad caps.. electrolitic caps betray more than often

lautmaschine

If the caps are okay, I'd check the trimpots.  They can become quite noisy.  I recently replaced the four trims in my English Channel with fixed resistors and the noisefloor has dropped significantly.