Orange Squeezer vs Ross Compressor?

[soccerman58]

Hi
Anyne favor one over the other Please? I suspect the Ross is the grey version that I saw someone was retooling; I don't know if the schematic I just downloaded includes any changes he might have made...does appear to be true bypass version, so who knows?
Thanks
Phil

[goosonique]

  build em both into one box ..just like e Bi-comp 

[markm]

I like 'em both but I think I prefer the Dyna over the Ross most of the time.

[petemoore]

  I like the 'extra' knob on the Dyna er Ross [I lifted some of the LP Filtering near circuit output], and have the 'dip' mod, which makes the 'sustain?' knob 'breath' harder.
  I like that it has a deeper 'thud' to the mids-low mids than 'my' OS which I use mostly as a Distortion pre-boost.

[calculating_infinity]

I must say I enjoy the Ross Comp I built with MarkM's layout.  He loves his comps!  I did Mark Hammer's 3 way attack mod and Ben Milner's blend mod with MarkM's layout.  Gonna stop to take the time to say what a cool community this is.  It came out really nice!  Like Mark Hammer says, the settings on the switch are meaningful.  With the blend I really have control over the squash and get a really nice blend which makes it much more useful!  I always have it on basically.  It's great before my Ugly Face.

[kvb]

The two are not the same type of compressor and should not really be compared head to head.

Search and read . . .

   then build them both. You'll be glad you did.

[Mark Hammer]

Though not quite as obvious to the ear as, say, a Fuzz Face vs a Tube Screamer vs a Jordan Bosstone, there ARE nonetheless enough subtle differences in feel between the various compressors/limiters on the market that few professionals are content to simply have one in the studio and be done with it, the way they might be content to have one mixer or one model of DI box or one brand of EQ.  That's not to say that your needs have to be the same as those of recording engineers, or even that either of these units are suitable for use as studio tools.  Rather, if pros accept that different compressors have different characters, you can feel comfortable in accepting that too, and perhaps build both knowing that one will be good for some contexts and the other good for different contexts, the same way you might build two different distortion pedals.

Now, in terms of which is a more trouble-free or cost-effective build, the OS has fewer parts ($$) but has more adjustments sometimes ( ).  The Dynacomp costs a bit more to make in parts, but the one adjustment to make is routinely trouble-free for most people.  There are legends about the dire need for transistor X or matching transistors.  In fact, both of those things have some basis in truth, but the improved performance they provide is quite modest, and may not even be detectable by many sets of ears...especially after the fuzz comes on and volume goes up. 

As noted or hinted at by others, though, the OS is best suited to SC pickups and nice clean rhythm playing. If that's your intended arena of use, then the OS is your preferred choice.  If holding notes above the 12th fret on a HB-equipped instrument using lots of finger vibrato and a cranked stack, while flinging your hair back and forth and doing your best Zakk Wylde impression is your intended use, then a stock Dynacomp is suggested.

[soccerman58]

Hi
Well, it is for my kid and he's not quite into Zakk Wylde, but he plays a higain fullstack with some heavy-duty Duncan humbuckers. I notice the MXR dynacomp has crept into the converation...do I deduce the Ross and the MXR are pretty much one and the same?

I have the layout for the Ross with the true bypass; I don't know if it encompasses all this:
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I must say I enjoy the Ross Comp I built with MarkM's layout.  He loves his comps!  I did Mark Hammer's 3 way attack mod and Ben Milner's blend mod with MarkM's layout.  Gonna stop to take the time to say what a cool community this is.  It came out really nice!  Like Mark Hammer says, the settings on the switch are meaningful.  With the blend I really have control over the squash and get a really nice blend which makes it much more useful!

or if there is another schematic somewhere with all that extry stuff and mods and stuff. He probably won't like a compressor, but I'm getting into building stuff a bit.
Later
Phil

[petemoore]

do I deduce the Ross and the MXR are pretty much one and the same?
  Same 'engine', one is 'geared higher'.
  Either can be built on a Ross/Dyna PCB or circuit board, see parts lists/schematics..the Dyna has additional LP Filtering near the output..I started with the Dyna, then pulled some of the LP filter components or reduced a caps to find the 'right' amount of HP noise tone.
  See a Mark Hammer post about what comps 'do, as in turn the gain up when not much input is coming from the source.
  ie.
  You might want to leave that HF content, and related HF noise untouched if:
  Your'e not getting much noise/it dont' bugya/you can hit the bypass switch.
  But if you play say rythm in a band with passages which require the whole band to become very quiet repeatedly, you may want to quell some of the HF's down, as the comp will gain up whatever the source 'has' [in terms of noise] during those passages.