Dr. Boogey Build Report, Photos and Notes :: No Squeal & Great Tone

Started by Chris Brown, September 23, 2007, 07:52:35 PM

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Chris Brown

This design was originally created by electrictabs and it has been extensively reworked by gaussmarkov and the DIY community.. the updates were discussed in detail here at this thread.

I based my layout on the gaussmarkov layout... this is supposed to be quieter and solve some of the noise issues that previous layouts have had. I will add pots to my layout and reply with it here at a later date. I'll also post my list of dr boogey links so that future builders can spend less time searching and more time reading.

I have not built this box previously so I can not compare the noise level to other layouts, however, I will say that this is a noisy build and I can see by moving the wires around that it would be even noisier if it wasn't layed out as it is.

Day 1:  I started out by making a layout for perfboard from the  gaussmarkov layout and comments here at this thread. I also found an old box meant for switching one keyboard between two computers. Nice and big.

Day 2:   I went ahead and populated the perfboard and soldered it all together.

Day3:   I completed the build by soldering all the wires, pots, switches, the led,  and the jacks. It was easy to bias the jfet drains to 4.5v.

Night 3:   I added the build to my pedal board and went to the gig...

This thing was extremely noisy!!! Waterfall sound like crazy, I guess that's white or pink noise... I should do my homework about the names of noise eh?

Anyway... I still used it, but even with the guitar volume at zero it made so much noise that it was obvious to everyone on the stage. We're a rock cover band that also does jam music jazz, fusion, and blues... we play loud.. for others to be able to hear my the noise it had to be extreme.

I came home from the gig knowing that the hundred or so posts that I had read about quieting the Dr. Boogey would pay off.

Day 4: I went back through the forum posts that I had bookmarked and got some ideas about lowering the noise. The first thing I did was changed Q1 from J201 to MPF102.... This helped substantially and left so much gain that I still probably won't set the gain knob to full. While I was in there I added a 100pf cap parallel with the 20pf cap...this slightly tamed some of the highs... there was just a little too much high end crunch for me before.

When I went to re-bias the build I realized how much trimmer noise I was getting.  I set Q1 to about 4.8v and the rest at 4.55ish  and tested it one last time... sounded great, still a lot of waterfall sound...

I bit the bullet and replaced the trim pots with fixed resistors....WOW WOW.

Taking out the trim pots took away 85% of the annoying waterfall sound...

I brought home my Twin Reverb and my fx board and tried it out with my normal rig at stage volume...

Now my Dr. Boogey is only slightly noisier than my fulldrive2. It's about as noisy as a fuzz face or something.

AWESOME!!


Big thanks to the DIY community for making fx building information available to the world!!

Photos:

Parts and Board


All wired up... check the old school foam pad


Wiring details


Slightly modded


All done


Back side


Added to the board


If my photobucket account exceeds it's bandwidth you can find this build report at helpmechris too.


Thanks to everyone for making this community what it is. Keep on learning.

Kindest Regards,

Chris Brown

km-r

cool, nice work!
i dismissed my desires for the boogey long ago because of the "waterfall noise" but i guess now is the time to revisit the said circuit...
do you still use the mpf102 as the first fet?
what resistors did you use for the drains?
did you measure the 4.5v resistance of the trimmers and replaced it with a near-value resistor?
i always thought my tall [vertical] trimmers were noisy...

nice job dude!
Look at it this way- everyone rags on air guitar here because everyone can play guitar.  If we were on a lawn mower forum, air guitar would be okay and they would ridicule air mowing.

s.r.v.

whats thecrazy 6 knob thing witht he pink tape? and this looks good!

Chris Brown

Thanks everyone, I posted the final layout and resource list.

I did keep the MPF102... sounds great, plenty of gain.

The pink thing is an overdrive/distortion that I tweaked over time... I'm not real sure what it is anymore... started out like a tubescreamer with hard clipping and more gain... added a mini booster in front of it, amz presence control, a low pass filter for fatness, lots of sockets for important caps and ics etc etc. This was my main distortion for about 6 months now... I sold my fulltone dist pro because I liked this so much.

Warm regards,

Chris Brown


km-r

hey chris,

^ maybe you should call it a tortured screamer or something...

oh btw,
your drboogey resource thread was awesome!
i'll ready myself for a wrestle round with the boogey!
Look at it this way- everyone rags on air guitar here because everyone can play guitar.  If we were on a lawn mower forum, air guitar would be okay and they would ridicule air mowing.

Chris Brown

Quote from: km-r on September 23, 2007, 09:36:03 PM
hey chris,

^ maybe you should call it a tortured screamer or something...

oh btw,
your drboogey resource thread was awesome!
i'll ready myself for a wrestle round with the boogey!

tortured screamer is a great description of what it is lol

thanks a bunch, the boogey is a fun build with big tone... worth the effort. The only down side is the "ey" instead of the "ie"  :P  but who really cares...  I called it a Dual Rectifier in a Box when people asked what I was working on.

Regards, CB

dschwartz

Hi Criss:
Congratz on your build!!...

But i strongly recommend you to make the PCB and use shielded wire for wiring (not just in-out) y helps a lot with noise and reliability..

I used the same trimpots and have no noise problem, sure they chatch some, but not as a problem...
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