Maybe we should all start selling our stuff...

Started by Valoosj, December 22, 2007, 06:34:06 PM

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gez

"They always say there's nothing new under the sun.  I think that that's a big copout..."  Wayne Shorter

kurtlives

My DIY site:
www.pdfelectronics.com

PerroGrande

Well, I've got to admit that I am always a bit curious as to what effects are used by "the big guys".  However, of equal importance would be to know what kind of pickups their using, as this goes a long way to making the sound.  Their "big" gear (guitars and amps) are usually visible, so that is fairly well known. Of course, even *with* their effects and gear, *I* still would not sound like most of them (some nagging thing about playing ability).  But hey -- one can dream.

In reading the other chain of posts, it is obvious that Clay crafted a decent pedal, sold it for a price that could cover his costs *and* compensate those involved in the creation of it.  Damn classy, and probably not done nearly enough.  He certainly doesn't control the aftermarket price, and shouldn't be held responsible for it.  Would I spend that much for it?  Heck no.  I'm just to damned cheap.  On the other hand, e-bay represents the ultimate free-market economy.  And, in a free market, something is worth precisely what someone is willing to pay for it. 

gez

Quote from: kurtlives on December 23, 2007, 05:34:22 PM
Me, clearly :icon_cool:

I don't think Clay ever mentioned the name of the guitarist (not on this forum at any rate), but I think he came from Boston (might narrow it down a bit).  At any rate, if you read a bit further in the thread I linked to, Doug mentioned that he heard Tomo Fujita playing through one, though that doesn't mean he owns/owned one or is the guitarist in question.
"They always say there's nothing new under the sun.  I think that that's a big copout..."  Wayne Shorter

DougH

#24
Tomo is the only "famous" player I know of that is using one. Tomo is a really talented fusion player and is a professor at Berklee. There may be other celebretarists that use it but I don't know much about it. It is a nice sounding overdrive, has a nice compression thing it does to the attack of the note. I never played through one but I heard Tomo play one at a clinic and I liked the sound he got with it. I preferred it to the dirty channel of his Fuchs. But none of this means anything as much of it comes down to the person using it, guitar, amp, speaker and whether I actually like the music I hear them making with it. IOW, it's all subjective and I'm shallow enough (or honest enough, maybe...) to admit that my "sound" preferences are influenced by how pleasing I find the music being made, and whether the person with the guitar has the ability to execute in ways that I find stimulating.

As for the $960 price tag, it's all aftermarket collector bullsh*t, governed by supply & demand, nothing more or less. For those of you who seem shocked by this- do some searches on "collector", "collector's market", etc. This has all been discussed to death in the past. This has no relation whatsoever to parts costs, labor, who's using it, etc, etc. Do some research, search Ebay for collectibles of any sort. You will find the same sort of mechanisms working for things such as matchbox cars, hot wheels, and anything else that is rare, not made anymore, and in demand.

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

PerroGrande

I believe the collector's market is best defined as "stuff I do not have, or got rid of years ago (for little or no profit)"

joegagan

in 67 or 68 when hot wheels cars were brand new i had a special deal with the drugstore that sold them in my little town.

they would let me go in the back,  dig through the boxes when the new shipments would come in so i could cherrypick the newest of the new.

those little suckrs are worth a mint now!

on the other hand, there are are very few vintage guitars that have appreciated ahead of what a well invested stock portfolio would have done. doesn't matter what era, even if you had a time machine to go back and buy a 52 tele and keep it mint, you would be almost exactly even with the average dow jones increase since that year ( assuming average dividends and reinvesting 100% each year).

as far as the clay jones OD prices, god bless america, long live capatilism!
my life is a tribute to the the great men and women who held this country together when the world was in trouble. my debt cannot be repaid, but i will do my best.

wampcat1

Quote from: Ed G. on December 23, 2007, 04:24:53 AM
Because he made 50, and he's said he ain't making more.
I'm sure it sounds great. I'm not sure that it sounds any better than what most people here can do, and I think Clay would say so much.
All the hype surrounding these pedals is pretty much out of Clay's control. He made a run of pedals, sold them for what I'm sure was a reasonable price, they got hyped, and being a limited item, who knows what the price will go up to?

true, it's no different than the Timmy/zendrive/etc selling for twice as much on ebay...
bw


ambulancevoice

Quote from: CS Jones on April 22, 2006, 01:01:58 AM
The good news is that the Tokai is the best strat I've ever played...
and, after all these years, my wife still looks pretty in her dresses.

awsome
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