I pimped my DS-1 out.

[QSQCaito]

From one extreme to another. That there's a difference doesn't mean that it's better or worse sounding, nothing like this exists, just depends on personal taste. I agree with Doug wit the twist in the trebble knob. But I must say some things are psychological =D. If treuebypass can by happiness, why not?
And in the CLEAN sound, 5 boss pedals or going straight, there's a difference.

Anyway, I'd rather be picky with my playing than the cord direction.


PS Sometimes it's good to be ignorant in some things, the more ignorant you are, the less problemas you can find xD

[Barcode80]

You guys must have canine hearing...

I have a mixture of buffered, true-bypass, etc on my board. I put my distortions, which are purposely built to interact with my passive pickups (i.e. no buffers) at the beginning of the chain so my guitar can, well, interact with them. The buffered stuff comes after that. I don't have any problems with consistency due to cable lengths, gig venues, phase of the moon, sunspots, etc. I don't notice any appreciable difference between that and plugging straight into my amp. And if there is, a hairline tweak of the treble knob on the amp will fix it. That's what it's for, no problem...

Maybe you guys should just get it over with, switch to piezos and pristine ultra-clean hi-fi SS amps, biamped with crossovers and in stereo preferably. Then you will get the most accurate sound possible from your guitar strings. For myself, I'm glad I don't have this ultrasonic radar hearing ability. That's a another whole set of problems I'm thankfully not burdened with obsessing over.

amen, i think a lot of time is wasted in this area. but, to each his own, i won't fault someone for being anal about tone. except that at 9 volts (even lower with no pedals) and with the overall low quality of all music gear (i only mean in comparison to say an audiophile stereo or something), "true" tone is fairly impossible, if not undesirable altogether! long live lo-fi!!! 

[DBDbadreligion]

I see what you are saying Barcode, and I agree with it.  I didn't mean to start this threat and have this HUGE argument going.  I just wanted to show everyone what I did.  I wanted to show that It was fun.  Haha.

[Ben N]

Relax, Nick, as much as it may look like it they aren't really piling on--just being a little grumpy. FWIW, I think ikt's cool that you did what you wanted with your pedal and you're happy with it. And you didn't start any big argument--the "TB: is it all it's cracked up to be?" thing is older than that, you just kinda fell into it.

[DougH]

Yeah, no arguments here... I hope you saw the humor in my post as it was intended to be tongue in cheek humorous. And I wasn't responding directly to anything you said anyway.

People should do whatever they feel they need to do to get the sound they want, that's the bottom line. And if you post about it don't get upset if everyone doesn't understand or agree with the approach.

As Ben said, these discussions have gone on a long time, nothing new. I'm just having a little fun with it...

[DBDbadreligion]

Ok that's good to know.

[DBDbadreligion]

I have a quick question.  After doing the ultra mod, where it puts the LED in series.  It definatley boost the output a lot, but I feel like gain is lost.  I can't really tell.  I am wondering if I were to just put another 1N4002 Rectifier diode in series instead of the LED would it provide output and the normal normal amount of gain?

[Barcode80]

well, the problem is that the reason it provides more volume is because the clipping threshold is much higher on LED's. The side effect of this is that the signal doesn't clip as soon, and therefore there is a large perceived gain loss. you could always use an LPB with a board mounted trimmer volume control and have it switch in with the LED. that way, you can set it so that you acheive unity gain on both clipping options.

[DBDbadreligion]

well, the problem is that the reason it provides more volume is because the clipping threshold is much higher on LED's. The side effect of this is that the signal doesn't clip as soon, and therefore there is a large perceived gain loss. you could always use an LPB with a board mounted trimmer volume control and have it switch in with the LED. that way, you can set it so that you acheive unity gain on both clipping options.

ok well I just wanted to be sure.  I have lpb-1 running right after the ds-1.

[Barcode80]

it is suck a small circuit that i would still suggest using a 3pdt toggle, one throw to switch in the LED, and the other throws to put the lpb in the signal path after the circuit.