Wiring two pedals in one box and want to share output jack......

Started by B Bent, May 05, 2008, 01:17:32 PM

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B Bent

This seems simple enough so correct me if I am wrong. I am a n00b so be nice.

I am building an overdrive and a clean boost (two separate kits) and want to put them in the same enclosure. In the end it will be very similar to a Sparkle Drive. I want to be able to have 1 input and one output jack as opposed to drilling the holes and wiring it as two separate kits in one box with external jacks that have to be jumpered by a guitar patch cable.  Do I just wire both kits to the output jack according to the schematic or is there some other way?

Make sense? Hope so since I am a greenhorn.

axg20202

There are several options here. If it was me, I'd allow for maximum flexibility and build them as separate units. Sooner or later you will want to use one of the effects on its own with other pedals. If you do go for one enclosure, it's possible to have a clever sereies of jacks, switches etc to reorder the two effects in the chain, insert another effect (or several) in between the two effects etc etc, but it would be a lot easier to have them as two units. I can give some tips if you really want to go this route....

Pushtone

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MikeH

Basically, wire it as if you were to use separate jacks and take the wire going to the first output jack and the second input jack and connect them, leaving out the jacks.  You will need to decide ahead of time which order to put them in.  Boost into OD = thicker distortion.  OD into Boost = volume increase.
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Dragonfly

There are a few options...if you're wiring them in parallel, you have to be cognizant of polarity. If you're wiring them in series, it wont make as much difference.

In my gallery folder you'll find wiring diagrams for wiring multiple circuits into one enclosure...it allows you to choose one effect, the other effect, or both. You can also look on Dano's site (www.beavisaudio.com IIRC..) to find a "FX order switcher" that uses a 4PDT switch.

Might I suggest something first though ? Being that you're new to this, why don't you go to the "Beginners Forum" and build the beginners project, which is a GREAT sounding booster. That way you get some success under your belt BEFORE undertaking a more involved project like you're looking at.  Pro Basketball players started by playing in the junior leagues...they didnt just go straight to the pro's...otherwise frustration would have made them quit.

theblueark

Definitely start with something simpler, or you'll have a giant headache debugging.

Also, the sparkledrive has the clean in parallel with the overdrive, which is very, very different from putting the clean boost before the overdrive or vice versa.

Albot

I was thinking about the same thing but for another puropse. im building a fuzz and i want some clean blend in it.
tried the minimal blender but as soon as i touched the volume knob on the fuzz the clean signal was lost simply because it was WAY too quiet.
so now I got another idea.

Could i put a fuzz and booster pedal in paralell connecting it to a panning pot for blending the signal?
Would there be some sort of impedance problem?

I don't know much about blending so far but i guess there's a reason we invented mixers.

(Sorry for hijacking the thread)

B Bent

Thanks for the replies guys. I admit that I have been a connect the dots project kind of guy so far. I have built at least 30 pedals all by kits with detailed instructions. I am bored with that and ready for the next level of challenge. I am overwhelmed, but motivated while reading the FAQs and such.

I will look into the posts that have been made so far. As of now this box I am building is two kits, an OD and a clean boost. I am in the initial stages of planning the layout hence the reason I asked the question I did.

aron

Are you wiring in series or parallel, that should be the first question.

B Bent

Quote from: aron on May 06, 2008, 01:40:59 PM
Are you wiring in series or parallel, that should be the first question.

I want to be able to run them separately or at the same time.