Just an idea, simple enough... any point in it?

Started by Evad Nomenclature, November 03, 2008, 12:02:46 AM

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Evad Nomenclature

A friend of mine was telling me today about how he got a Barber compressor and it was the first one (comp) that he really liked because it had a "blend" knob, and it allowed him to blend his wet/dry compression signal.  That way you can fatten up and squash your tone a bit, but at the same time keep the original.  (He's a jazz guy, so he really wants the super clear untouched sounding tone)

So anyhoo, I was thinking about the idea of doing a blend...  I'm sure that there is a better way but could you just do this?

Here's a 3pdt switch ... in type...


To circuit in     1     2     3  From circuit out                        Solder a jumper from pin 1 (how I have it marked on the switch), to pin 6?  That way, when the effect is engaged you send the signal
                                                                                      through the signal path into the actual effect circuit, but also straight through the switch out of the pedal?  Then, the volume on effect   
              In     4     5     6  Out                                         circuit will work as a "blend" with the clean effect running straight through the pedal.  When the                                                           
                                                                                     pedal is disengaged, it will still work as true bypass?  A poor mans blend control?
       Bypass In 7     8     9  Bypass Out


It was just a theory... I'm still new at this whole pedal and electronics thing, and haven't had a chance to try it yet... I think I'm either onto something, or completely stupid =)
Usually, I find it is the latter on the 2!
Evad Nomenclature III
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Evad Nomenclature

blah... the way it was setup got all screwed up because of how I typed it in... hopefully it's still understandable... lol
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DougH

I can't follow your diagram, but wet/dry blending on a compressor is not a bad idea and has been discussed here before. One of the problems with some (at least) guitar compressors is they have a midrangey quality that muddies up your highs. Mark Hammer or Jay Doyle may come in here sooner or later and explain why that is (I don't remember). But an easy fix would be to high pass filter your dry signal and blend that with the compressor output. This serves as a "treble-leak" of sorts, kind of like a "bright cap" on a volume pot. Most of the compression action happens with the lows/mids, and the highs are preserved to add clarity.
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Look for the "WHAT" compressor on the web.  The writeup might be of use IIRC the April resistor part.

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http://dt.prohosting.com/hacks/what.html


Evad Nomenclature

Quote from: DougH on November 03, 2008, 07:20:15 AM
I can't follow your diagram, but wet/dry blending on a compressor is not a bad idea and has been discussed here before. One of the problems with some (at least) guitar compressors is they have a midrangey quality that muddies up your highs. Mark Hammer or Jay Doyle may come in here sooner or later and explain why that is (I don't remember). But an easy fix would be to high pass filter your dry signal and blend that with the compressor output. This serves as a "treble-leak" of sorts, kind of like a "bright cap" on a volume pot. Most of the compression action happens with the lows/mids, and the highs are preserved to add clarity.


Sorry, yeah, I typed it up and it got all screwed up.  Lemme try to explain it in a more simple way.

Can you use a jumper from the top left pin (the one that goes to the input of the circuit typically) and run a jumper *on the switch* to the pin that runs to the output jack of the pedal?
Doing so, you are getting a dry signal (completely bypassing the effect in the box) as well as sending the signal through the effect? (when the pedal is engaged) 

I don't know if that makes more sense... but thinking about it right now, it might be a poor man's blend... But I'm also thinking of the inherent problem that you can never have a 100% wet sound since you are basically hardwiring the dry sound to be always on... :icon_eek:

I'll check those things out that you mentioned though, thanks much,
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Boogdish

I think you would get very little "wet" signal that way.  Electricity seeks the path of least resistance, and your jumper wire would have less resistance on it than the contents of your circuit board.

arawn

yeah but what about inserting a 500k pot and wiring it as a blend so the output of the circuit and the dry signal get mixed at the pot and then from the pot to the output Jack???
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