Please examine & critique my first attempt at vero layout

Started by Dito, January 11, 2016, 11:41:33 AM

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deadastronaut

vero is fine for tiny circuits like your doing...or just prototyping for a quickie..

but vero layouts get massive quickly with more complex stuff...

have you got a breadboard...i highly recommend one. a must have tool... 8)


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lethargytartare

Quote from: Dito on January 12, 2016, 11:03:35 AM
If there's hatred for vero, then how come I see so many layouts using it?

It's a bit harsh to say everyone here hates vero.  I love it and still prefer it for diy.  I don't have the wherewithal to keep everything for etching around (I did a fair amount when I first got into this all), and I'm more comfortable debugging vero.  But overall I think it's just the changing pulse of the community.  Several years ago I was very active here and people were whipping up vero layouts left and right (hence the pretty large archive you can find here).  Many of those folks may have "graduated" to doing etch layouts. It could also be that the community is evolving and there are more complex projects coming out that can be very unwieldy on vero. 

Anything that keeps you engaged and serves as a hook for you to learn more is the way to go!

Dito

There are more than enough vero projects here (and elsewhere) to keep me happy and busy for a good long time.

I have begun collecting documents and printing them. I'm all for electronic resources, but when you have to keep flipping pages back and forth, paper still rules the day.

Now I wish I hadn't given away my 5-pound hardcover copy of "The Art of Electronics" by Horowitz & Hill. It was impossible to read at first, and it collected dust for ages. When you're moving and paying by the pound, dusty unread books are an easy target.
"All that's left of me is slight insanity / What's on the right, I don't know." - Sugar (Bob Mould), Hoover Dam

Renegadrian

#23
added a pull down resistor (can be 1m, 2.2m ecc)
ps I am a vero lover, and I hate perf. 99% of my builds are on veros, lots of times using my own layouts
didn't mark out but it should be clear to figure out every component - resistor on column 8 is the LED R.

Done an' workin'=Too many to mention - Tube addict!

Dito

Man, talk about compact. There's definitely an art to this (and I don't mean your sig on the layout).

Where did you get the snazzy pot symbols? DIYLC feels like it's friendly to user add-ons; I just haven't looked into it very deeply.
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Renegadrian

Yep, years and years trying to develop my own layouts and now I can be that compact - it's like tetris, you have to combine all the pieces tight with little empty spaces.
I got those symbols on the net, I use them with gimp.
Done an' workin'=Too many to mention - Tube addict!

Fast Pistoleros

hello, drawing it out on paper with pencil by following the flow works great for vero layouts. To me, its the best way to go about a vero layout.


SuzukiScottie


Quote from: Dito on January 12, 2016, 11:51:39 AM
There are more than enough vero projects here (and elsewhere) to keep me happy and busy for a good long time.

I have begun collecting documents and printing them. I'm all for electronic resources, but when you have to keep flipping pages back and forth, paper still rules the day.



I collect all my schematics and any other info I need for a project (artwork, photos, layouts, tech specs, original manufacturers description etc etc) and I store it in Evernote. I've got hundreds of projects at my fingertips on my iPhone, iPad, PC. They sync across them all devices.

It's a great multi-platform resource for note taking. I usually only need to print out the schem to have it handy for highlighting sections of it as I populate the breadboard or other stuff like that.

The search function in Evernote is great too. Type in a component value in the search bar and up pops all the projects containing that part. Or search any kind of keyword or label you may give to various project names or descriptions.

I used to keep stuff in various folders and sub folders  in a file structure on my PC, but that was quite laborious. Evernote (other similar type of apps are available!) makes everything much easier to manage in that regard. See a schem or a layout to try? Screenshot it or save it, and send it to Evernote with a label of your choice, or slip it in to an existing project if required. Job done!

duck_arse

further to the kipper method of diy - I put a resistor on the layout, then turn off or delete all identifiers - value, colour bands, name. then copy that blank resistor and paste how many times I need. same for caps. that way, you're just doing "the layout", and not needing to keep track of which resistor is R53.

it forces you to get right into the what and how of the circuit, you can tidy with ledgending "when it's done" as an error checking.

(I hate vero, doesn't mean I didn't use it for many many years.)
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