Lead free solder is terrible

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jacobyjd

Quote from: solderman on August 20, 2009, 08:09:31 AM
Oppps
stompbox buildning seems to be a dangerous hobby.  :o
Besides getting tinnitus and being electrified the soldering part looks really dangerous. I thing I'll have to start knitting after reading this ;D
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg248.pdf
http://www.le.ac.uk/eg/safety/risk/solder/Risk_Assessment_For_Soldering.doc

*Lights a smoke and points at you with the hand holding my whiskey glass*

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MoltenVoltage

When you sell to the EU you have to use that crap.  I find that 850 degrees F works, but you still get the occasional "tin whiskers" and have to really check every joint under a magnifying glass.

Every profession comes with risks.  The guy pumping gas breathes all kinds of toxic fumes, but you don't see anyone putting the kibosh on that.

Like Steven Tyler said "It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in!"

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Quote from: MoltenVoltage on August 20, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
When you sell to the EU you have to use that crap.  I find that 850 degrees F works, but you still get the occasional "tin whiskers" and have to really check every joint under a magnifying glass.

Every profession comes with risks.  The guy pumping gas breathes all kinds of toxic fumes, but you don't see anyone putting the kibosh on that.

Like Steven Tyler said "It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in!"



I haven't seen a gas station where someone actually pumps the gas for you in at least 15 years. Just an observation...

EDIT: You know, there wouldn't be the need for RoHS compliance if the world didn't have an "everything is disposable" mentality. I can't believe what I see on the curb on trash day around here. Stuff that is perfectly good and which could be given to Goodwill or something sitting there like it is trash, when it isn't. People seem to be too lazy to do that and they would rather have it go into a landfill. It really makes me sick when I see this sort of thing. Actually disgusted is a better word.

If I were a trashman, I would either have a lot of perfectly good things in my house for free or I would get fired because I wouldn't put something in the truck that obviously isn't trash.  :icon_rolleyes:

wavley

Quote from: Paul Marossy on August 20, 2009, 11:29:04 AM
Quote from: MoltenVoltage on August 20, 2009, 11:27:34 AM
When you sell to the EU you have to use that crap.  I find that 850 degrees F works, but you still get the occasional "tin whiskers" and have to really check every joint under a magnifying glass.

Every profession comes with risks.  The guy pumping gas breathes all kinds of toxic fumes, but you don't see anyone putting the kibosh on that.

Like Steven Tyler said "It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in!"



I haven't seen a gas station where someone actually pumps the gas for you in at least 15 years. Just an observation...

EDIT: You know, there wouldn't be the need for RoHS compliance if the world didn't have an "everything is disposable" mentality. I can't believe what I see on the curb on trash day around here. Stuff that is perfectly good and which could be given to Goodwill or something sitting there like it is trash, when it isn't. People seem to be too lazy to do that and they would rather have it go into a landfill. It really makes me sick when I see this sort of thing. Actually disgusted is a better word.

If I were a trashman, I would either have a lot of perfectly good things in my house for free or I would get fired because I wouldn't put something in the truck that obviously isn't trash.  :icon_rolleyes:

New Jersey won't let you pump your own gas.   Other than that I haven't seen a full serve station in years, I was a full serve attendant in high school.
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Paul Marossy

You can't pump you own gas in New Jersey?! That's kind of weird. Is that some kind of whacky law they have there?

solderman

And I hope the gas is free from lead. ;D

BTW
I all of EU (I think, at least in Sweden) all the gas pumps must be fit with fume suction to eliminate the aromatic hydrocarboninte hydrfumes that comes out from the tank when you fill gas.
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MoltenVoltage

Oregon won't let you pump your own gas either.  You actually get scolded if you try!   :)

They don't use the fume recapture either like they do in California.

However it is all unleaded, they haven't sold ethyl in ages...
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jacobyjd

Generally if leaded fuel is legal at all anywhere, you have to purchase it in small bottles, usually 1q or 1/2gal at a time. Generally just used for muscle cars with higher-compression engines.

It's getting harder and harder to find though.

Most people just move to higher-octane unleaded...which you still have to buy in small bottles.
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solderman

Well I would not be happy driving a car like a 454 charger with compressor and everything extra. Many bottles to get to work.  :icon_mrgreen:

My own car is a Bio fuel SAAB that runs on E85 or gas. It It only consumes methanol that has been produced by sugar grown on waisted Brazilian rain forests to be environmentally safe but no lead :icon_cry:
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jacobyjd

Quote from: solderman on August 20, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Well I would not be happy driving a car like a 454 charger with compressor and everything extra. Many bottles to get to work.  :icon_mrgreen:

My own car is a Bio fuel SAAB that runs on E85 or gas. It It only consumes methanol that has been produced by sugar grown on waisted Brazilian rain forests to be environmentally safe but no lead :icon_cry:

It's usually used to supplement wimpier fuel, so you wouldn't buy a whole tankfull of the stuff :-P

Anymore, because of the changes in fuel, muscle car enthusiasts are designing their engines to run on 87 octane. That allows them to run it on just about anything available without any issues.

I'm not a Dodge guy--I'd love to have an older Corvette or possibly a 1st-gen Firebird (everyone wants a camaro--no clue why...they're nice, but everyone's got one...). No money though, and no place to store it when I'm not driving it :)

My REAL car is an '83 Mercedes 240D. D for diesel. Runs on used vegetable oil if I can ever find a source for it. Gets 40-50mpg on regular diesel. Runs like a champ, doesn't like cold weather though. Makes Indiana winters interesting :)
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MoltenVoltage

Quote from: solderman on August 20, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Well I would not be happy driving a car like a 454 charger with compressor and everything extra. Many bottles to get to work.  :icon_mrgreen:

My own car is a Bio fuel SAAB that runs on E85 or gas. It It only consumes methanol that has been produced by sugar grown on waisted Brazilian rain forests to be environmentally safe but no lead :icon_cry:

454 is a Chevy engine.   ;)

The holy grail of muscle car engines is the 426 hemi

Now tell you you wouldn't want to drive a '71 hemi 'cuda convertible...



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jacobyjd

Maybe with a bag over my head :-P
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Paul Marossy

Huh, I didn't know that they had these sorts of gas pumping laws in effect elsewhere in the U.S., very interesting. Here in Las Vegas, every single gas station has a convenience store attached to it and it's all "self-serve". The last time I can remember a free standing gas station here where they would pump your gas and clean your windows is around 1984 or so.

Anyway, you learn something new every day.

wavley

Quote from: Paul Marossy on August 20, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Huh, I didn't know that they had these sorts of gas pumping laws in effect elsewhere in the U.S., very interesting. Here in Las Vegas, every single gas station has a convenience store attached to it and it's all "self-serve". The last time I can remember a free standing gas station here where they would pump your gas and clean your windows is around 1984 or so.

Anyway, you learn something new every day.

And the 7-11s have video poker!  A few years ago I rolled into vegas at 4:30 in the morning after playing with Branca in LA and it was still just as busy as it was at 4:30 PM.  When do you people find time to sleep, what with Gil Grissom going around solving crimes, showgirls, gambling and whatnot ;D
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alanlan

Lead is cool.  It makes things work better.

Taylor

Yeah, you ever try to sink a body to the bottom of the Hudson with a bag of tin shot? It's difficult, wouldn't recommend it.

frank_p

Quote from: Taylor on August 21, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
Yeah, you ever try to sink a body to the bottom of the Hudson with a bag of tin shot? It's difficult, wouldn't recommend it.

Man, you scare me Taylor...

Paul Marossy

Quote from: wavley on August 21, 2009, 09:33:40 AM
Quote from: Paul Marossy on August 20, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Huh, I didn't know that they had these sorts of gas pumping laws in effect elsewhere in the U.S., very interesting. Here in Las Vegas, every single gas station has a convenience store attached to it and it's all "self-serve". The last time I can remember a free standing gas station here where they would pump your gas and clean your windows is around 1984 or so.

Anyway, you learn something new every day.

And the 7-11s have video poker!  A few years ago I rolled into vegas at 4:30 in the morning after playing with Branca in LA and it was still just as busy as it was at 4:30 PM.  When do you people find time to sleep, what with Gil Grissom going around solving crimes, showgirls, gambling and whatnot ;D

Yeah, that's another thing unique to Las Vegas. That and some kind of version of a bar at practically every street corner.

R O Tiree

Quote from: Taylor on August 21, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
Yeah, you ever try to sink a body to the bottom of the Hudson with a bag of tin shot? It's difficult, wouldn't recommend it.

... and silver shot is only good for killing werewolves.

Lead FTW!
...you fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way...