Long Tailed Pair - Swapping BJTs for FETs

Started by aziltz, September 12, 2009, 01:10:00 PM

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aziltz

Long Tailed Pair - Swapping BJTs for FETs

Anyone have any insight on this?  I want to use a LTP as a Clipper with jFETs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_amplifier#Long-tailed_pair

davidallancole

You would just put your JFET in and adjust the current source (or resistor on the source side) so that the current is balanced between each JFET.

Do you have a schematic you are wanting to use?

aziltz

Quote from: davidallancole on September 12, 2009, 01:41:10 PM
You would just put your JFET in and adjust the current source (or resistor on the source side) so that the current is balanced between each JFET.

Do you have a schematic you are wanting to use?

Kinda, but the current through the BJT's is intentionally mismatched. 

I'm also comparing it to the Discrete OpAmps in the Boss BD-2.

davidallancole

What is this schematic snippit from?

If you follow the LTP's like in the BD-2, they have a ballanced current and they use JFETs as well.  Which one would you prefer to follow more?  The schematic snippit or the BD-2?

aziltz

I'm going for a FET version of the mismatched one above, using it as a gain stage/clipper.  The LTPs in the Boss design had the same biasing topology as the text-book balanced BJT versions, so I was wondering if swapping the semiconductors would give similar results or if the resistors would have to be changed.  I suppose I could analyze the quiescent setup of the BJT and adapt it to a FET setup.  I wasn't sure if there was an easier way or if some had already done that.

davidallancole

With the text book LTP, you can switch the devices and all you would have to do is adjust the single source/emitter resistor.  You could probably do that with the mis-matched setup as well.  If you could figure out what the dc voltage is at the R11/Q3c junction, I am sure you could put in the FETs and adjust R10 to get the same voltage.

You might have to change the R5/R12 reference points to ground instead of half supply.

aziltz


davidallancole

Not a problem.  Let us know how it works out.

JDoyle

If you bias the gates to 1/2V+ (in a single supply circuit, ground for dual supply) you should be able to swap BJTs out for JFETs without major problems. The minor problems are always going to be there, namely: lower gain, higher offset and worse CMRR and PSRR.

But it should work fine if the gates are biased correctly...