Big Muff troubles

Started by Ned Flanger, September 20, 2009, 06:40:25 PM

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Ned Flanger

Well I just finished my first pedal, and it does not work.  It's a little disappointing, but I guess that is the name of the game.  It seems like the effect is working but for some reason I can't get a signal from the guitar.  It sounds fine when the the bypass is on and you can hear a hum.  You can also hear things change when you turn all the pots, but no signal from the guitar.  Does any have a clue what it might be?

Thanks,

Ned Flanger

Alright, after convincing myself not to take a sledgehammer to my pedal, I read on the debugging post.  Below is all the Transistor voltages.  Hopefully this will help.

Biff Muff Pi (Third Edition)

Output Circuit Voltage = 0
Input circuit voltage = can't tell keeps dropping

Q1
C=8.73
B=1.517
E=1.036

Q2
C=8.73
B=1.510
E=1.030

Q3
C=8.25
B=1.426
E=0.949

Q4
C=3.640
B=1.768
E=1.186


R.G.

"What to do when it doesn't work" has a lot more in it than "just post the transistor voltages."
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

Wales

I would try the audio probe. Follow your signal from guitar to where it goes wrong, and report those findings.

mmaatt25

Your voltages are way off on all transistors.

If you search there's been a couple of recent posts about big muff trouble.

Also if you look at GGG site they have listed voltages after one of their big muff builds, I would look at these and there schematic.  I suspect with the voltages you are getting you will discover the problem very quickly.

Matt

Mark Hammer

Verify the transistor pinouts.  I say this not because I wish to underestimate your chops.  I say it because many datsheets just have really confusing or ambiguous pinout diagrams, and because sometimes a transistor with the same part number made by a different manufacturer can have different pinouts.  I also say it because while Japanese 2SC transistors and European BC transistors are excellent subs for 2N types, very often the pinouts are different.  Finally, I say it because even though in theory there ought to be only 6 different ways of organizing the pins, somehow it seems like there are 25 or more possible pinouts sometimes! :icon_lol:

Ned Flanger

I am starting to underestimate my chops.  I checked out the voltages on GGG and they are way off.  If someone wants to give a quick tutoral on checking transistor voltages, be my guest.  Again, everyone thanks for the help.  The respect for you guys being able to build your own effects is growing immensely.