A Simple One Opamp Parametric

Started by George Giblet, October 13, 2009, 10:17:51 AM

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George Giblet

This was spawned off another thread,

http://s476.photobucket.com/albums/rr130/ggeffects/?action=view&current=gg_simple_parametric.png

It's quite a well behaved parametric and uses the bare minimum of parts.

You can cascade a few bands together without any problems.


Processaurus

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Neat, does the input need to be a low impedance to soak up the opamp's output that comes back through RV1?

Sweepable mids are really where it's at.  I'm working on a PCB board that has the Metal Zone parametric EQ section on it with the same goal, figuring a parametric eq on any distortion pedal would make it versatile.  I believe small bear has a 2x 100KC pot (for univibe's originally).   Not in 16mm, but beggars can't be choosers.  Or beggars could choose a higher value linear pot and taper it with resistors.

jacobyjd

Quote from: George Giblet on October 13, 2009, 10:17:51 AM
You can cascade a few bands together without any problems.

Cascade, meaning place them in series?

My first thought would be to run a couple of these in different bands in parallel--maybe I'm misunderstanding though.

Either way, it looks like a neat little snippet--I'll give it a whirl on the breadboard :)
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Processaurus

2 in parallel and you'd lose 1/2 of what you accomplished in the other stage.  The iron hand is better than democracy when it comes to filtering audio.

oliphaunt

George this looks very interesting, thanks for posting.  Do you have a plot of the curve?  Do you know how to change the width of the Q?  Sorry for the silly question, but what does each pot control?

jacobyjd

Quote from: Processaurus on October 13, 2009, 10:50:37 AM
2 in parallel and you'd lose 1/2 of what you accomplished in the other stage.  The iron hand is better than democracy when it comes to filtering audio.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
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ianmgull

Quote from: Processaurus on October 13, 2009, 10:50:37 AM
2 in parallel and you'd lose 1/2 of what you accomplished in the other stage.  The iron hand is better than democracy when it comes to filtering audio.

Best analogy ever. :D From this day forward:

Series=Iron Hand
Parallel=Democracy

fuzzo

Quote from: Processaurus on October 13, 2009, 10:32:00 AM


Sweepable mids are really where it's at.  I'm working on a PCB board that has the Metal Zone parametric EQ section on it with the same goal, figuring a parametric eq on any distortion pedal would make it versatile.  I believe small bear has a 2x 100KC pot (for univibe's originally).   Not in 16mm, but beggars can't be choosers.  Or beggars could choose a higher value linear pot and taper it with resistors.

Yeah, I'm thinking about the same idea, take the MT2 tonestack and putting in a stand alone box. That additional bass/treble controls are really interessting to don't just work on mids.


George Giblet

QuoteDo you have a plot of the curve?  Do you know how to change the width of the Q?  Sorry for the silly question, but what does each pot control?

I will put up a plot (I don't bother with it because it just looks like the usual humps).

The Q and amount of boost are linked, that's the limitation of the simple circuit.  Also, I'm wouldn't recommend trying to get more than 15dB boost/cut because you can get some weird effects (that's the bug in the MT2).     As is the only thing you can play with is the ratio of the capacitors.   IIRC a ratio of C1/C2 = 1 gives 9.5dB boost with a Q of around 1.   The Q produced by the circuit is good for general use.

It's possible to mod the circuit but by that time you are better off choosing a two-opamp parametric.

For the pots,
  RV1 = boost cut
  RV2a, RV2b = frequency


fuzzo