Choosing New project

Started by kin0, December 24, 2009, 02:52:52 PM

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kin0


Hello,
I finished my first project. I built LPB-1 without kit.
Now I have a problem. I want to add some pedal to my pedal board echo/phaser/chorus.
I want delay too but I'll take the PT80 kit in GGG.
I checked the schematic of MXR Phase 90 and I am sure it's too difficult for me to but if I'll build dist or another boost I have nothing to do with them because I already have boost and dist.

So what you advise me to do to built another dist that I have nothing to do with or to try make echo/phaser/chorus although it is very hard.

oh and this is the schematic of the MXR phase 90
http://geofex.com/FX_images/p90ramp.pdf

Kearns892

Get a breadboard! Practice building things on that and when you are ready to try a more difficult effect it will make the initial debugging easier. Besides IMHO you can never have enough overdrives distortions and fuzzes as long as they are unique.

kin0

What is breafboard my English not so good.
Yes I know that you can have alot of overdrives and dists but I have very little money and I want to built my pedal board.


KazooMan


The PT-80 kit from GGG would be perfect for you.  It has quite a few components but it goes together easily.  I gave the kit to a 14 year old budding rock star for Christmas last year and he built the pedal himself (with me watching over his shoulder and offering some tips).  It worked first try. 

The two of us also built the Wah pedal from the B.Y.O.C. kit.  Also a complete success.  You should check out their site for more kits you might like.

If you want to get away from kits, I would suggest the Small Clone Chorus from the Tonepad site.  This is a great sounding chorus.  They rate it as an advanced build, but it should go together well for you if you take your time.  You can get a pre-made board from them if you do not want to etch your own. 

Kearns892

#4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadboard

There's the wiki page for a breadboard, the article comes in many languages, so hopefully your native one is on there!

Quote from: kin0 on December 24, 2009, 03:15:28 PM
Yes I know that you can have alot of overdrives and dists but I have very little money and I want to built my pedal board.


This is the beauty of the breadboard, as I also don't have a ton of money to throw into this hobby.  All connections on the breadboard are temporary, no soldering or trimming of leads is required. This allows you to get an idea of how a circuit will sound, tweak it, and decide if you want to invest the money to commit it to a more permanent board and house it. If you have a set of 1/4 inch jacks, some alligator clips and jumper wires, you should be able to buy the parts for many distortion, overdrive, and fuzz pedals for only a few U.S. Dollars a circuit!. The biggest cost will be potentiometers, but in many cases, for testing purposes, these can be replaced with fixed resistors or trimmers. Since no parts are consumed when building on the breadboard, a relatively small and inexpensive array of components should get you set to build quite a few simple circuits.

If that's still not clear, just let me know and I will rephrase, but I probably won't be able to get back to you for a few days because of Christmas travel.

Hope this helps and merry Christmas!

kin0

Oh fine I read very good in English but there are some words I don't know and I'll try to buy one I know it like prototype board.

And I am 14 years old boys by myself.

Oh and what effect I better built after the pt80?

jkokura

Maybe after doing the PT-80 think about doing another kit project. If you're new at this it's easier to do the kits for sure. BYOC is a great source for kits, as is GGG, and both of them are very popular with people around here. Chances are you'll be able to find someone who has experience with the kit that you're interested in. Check out BYOC at http://www.buildyourownclone.com

However, if you really do want to try finding your own parts and building a project from scratch, I've bought several PCB boards from tonepad: http://www.tonepad.com/projects.asp?projectType=fx

I've built the small clone, and while it sounds excellent it is a harder project to build. The EA trem and Phase 45 are easier and a little less expensive as far as parts are concerned. Also, a good compressor would be an asset to your board, and I highly recommend either the Ross Compressor or the Orange Squeezer.

Jacob

kin0

Oh I don't need compressor for my board. I play metal I don't find it usefull.

I want to know what to build because I order eneclourse for the booster and you need at least 4 products to order( 2 3pdt foot switch and 2 encelourses)

Kearns892

Do you have enough 1/4 in jacks, wire, battery snaps and the like? Check out some of the projects here [url]http://beavisaudio.com/bboard/projects//url]. They include schematics, breadboard diagrams, and mod ideas. You can save money over kits and building these and still get the detailed walkthough.

jkokura

If you play metal, and metal only, than about the only pedals that are useful are high gain distortions, overdrives and boosts and things of that sort. Perhaps a good eq for scooping out the mids. I almost never hear metal with players who use much else. Randy Rhoads used to use a few different effects a bit. Perhaps if you googled the pedal board setup of a few of your favorite metal players you would find a pedal you might want to build?

I personally love having a phaser, into a compressor, a booster, into an OD with a booster, into a delay with tap and out to my amp. That's a great setup in my mind, and very versatile for all sorts of styles of music. Sometimes I add in an extra overdrive or a dirt box of some kind either, before, after or in place of the overdrive. I also sometimes add in a trem and flanger before the Delay pedal. In anycase - that's what I like to play with, and those are the kinds of pedals I like to build.

If you were to nail it down to a specific pedal type, you would get a lot of suggestions as to what project. For instance, pick if you want a phaser, or a flanger, or a tremolo, or a vibe, or a reverb, or an overdrive, or a boost, or whatever other options are out there for pedals. Then we can give you advice as to what pedal.

You asked about the phase 90 - the phase 45 is slightly easier and about the same pedal.

jacob

kin0

#10
I'll tell you that my pedal board I going to have

Wah-Booster(have)-dist(have)-phaser(phaser 90/45)-delay(pt80)-compressor/echo/chrous (I still can't dicide which of them to put)

So I want build:
Phaser
Wah
Compressor/echo/chrous

and I want build them without kit.


Oh and do you know if it is hard to build barber dirty bomb

kin0

Quote from: kin0 on December 25, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
I'll tell you that my pedal board I going to have

Wah-Booster(have)-dist(have)-phaser(phaser 90/45)-delay(pt80)-compressor/echo/chrous (I still can't dicide which of them to put)

So I want build:
Phaser
Wah
Compressor/echo/chrous

oh and I want to built some high gain distortion like barber dirty bomb/metal muff/chaos


Oh and do you know if it is hard to build barber dirty bomb