mid-fi clai(not) Debugging Help

Started by a soBer Newt, January 31, 2010, 08:34:43 PM

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a soBer Newt

Hello all.  I would like some help debugging this circuit. I built a mid-fi clai(not) like rick holts layout.  The distortion side of this circuit works just fine. I am having an issue with the delay portion. According to the schematic there should be sound at pin 16 on the PT2399. With the IC plugged in I do not get any sound at this point when the IC is removed I do get sound at this point. Any Ideas?

Here is the checklist filled out:
1.What does it do, not do, and sound like I get the distortion out of it. No Delay
2.Name of the circuit = Mid-Fi Clai(not)
3.Source of the circuit  = http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb292/frequencycentral/Clarinotboards.jpg
4.Any modifications to the circuit? Yes distortion on off switch
5.Any parts substitutions? No
6.Positive ground to negative ground conversion? No
7. Power supply puts out 10.6

Now, using the original schematic as a reference for which part is which (that is, which transistor is Q1, Q2, etc. and which IC is IC1, IC2, C1, and so on) measure and list the voltage on each pin of every transistor and IC. Just keep the black lead on ground, and touch the pointed end of the red probe to each one in turn. Report the voltages as follows:

IC1 (LM386)
9.97volts

IC2 (PT2399)
5.88

IC 3(7805)
1 10
2 0.84
3 5.88

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D1
A (anode, the non-band end) =10.78
K (cathode, the banded end) =10

anchovie

Could you post voltages for all of the pins on the PT2399, not just V+? :)
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a soBer Newt

Pt2399
P1: 5.88
P2:3.32
P3:0.84
P4:0.84
P5:5.60
P6:3.55
P7:0.54
P8:5.47
P9:5.61
P10:1.26
P11:3.32
P12:3.32
P13:3.32
P14:3.32
P15:3.32
P16:3.32

LM386
P1: 2.14
P2:0.82
P3:0.82
P4:0.82
P5:3.91
P6:10.81
P7:5.86
P8:2.15

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#3
My Clari(not) is no longer stock, as I removed the envelope part and added an LFO and a fuzz lift switch, but the voltages should help you to debug. The voltage were taken with fuzz on and no LFO modulation, as close as I can get to stock. First thing I'd say is that your pin 6 is a little too high, but I notice that your 7805 is putting out 5.88 which may account for that. I'd also be concerned about you volatges at pins 8 and 9.

PT2399

Pin 1 - 4.99
Pin 2 - 2.49
Pin 3 - 0.00
Pin 4 - 0.00
Pin 5 - 2.82
Pin 6 - 2.49
Pin 7 - 0.51
Pin 8 - 2.49
Pin 9 - 2.49
Pin 10 - 2.49
Pin 11 - 2.49
Pin 12 - 2.49
Pin 13 - 2.49
Pin 14 - 2.49
Pin 15 - 2.49
Pin 16 - 2.49


LM386-N1

Pin 1 - 1.30
Pin 2 - 0.00
Pin 3 - 0.00
Pin 4 - 0.00
Pin 5 - 2.71
Pin 6 - 8.47
Pin 7 - 4.23
Pin 8 - 1.32
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a soBer Newt

so should I try getting a new regulator to see if that helps with the voltage issue? Or could it be that a cap. not good?

frequencycentral

#5
The PT2399 wants to see 5 volts, not sure why yours is getting more. Also not sure how much more the PT2399 can handle before it ceases working. As usual, check for microscopic solder bridges between the pins, it's a tight layout. You sure you have all the wiring on th pot board correct? - ie cross reference it with the schematic.

BTW, I know this sounds daft - but is your PT2399 inserted the right way round??
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