EQ and tone Stacks

[modsquad]

Something occurred to me yesterday as I was sitting at my desk daydreaming....err....thinking.   We se a lot of comments about changing tone stacks in effects, finding tone ranges, increasing bass/treble etc.   I realized that for a couple of years now I have stuck a 7 band eq right before the amp in my chain ala David Gilmour.  That way I can fine tune the tone.   Am I missing something here or does that solve most of the issues.   Just curious.

[Quackzed]

it solves the problem of frequency shaping the final signal,yes.
but ...if you had no treble roll off along the way through a high gain pedal youd be amplifying harmonics, then harmonics of harmonics which would result in a ton of extra treble...so anything you run that signal into is going to be responding to all that extra treble...
so you need some sort of eq in between stages as well.
but if you ran an eq after your distortion stage... into modulation echo fx then another eq at the very end at the amp, you'd have alot of tonal possibilities !
I wonder if theres a digital eq type pedal that lets you store settings... it would be valuable after a distortion, to be able to scroll through different frequency curves...

[davidallancole]

BOSS used to make one but have discontinued it.  The EQ-20 Advanced EQ.

[modsquad]

Ooooohhhhh...Interesting idea...I just realized my Digitech 2101 allows me to create patches with EQ, PEQ between the effect stages along with mixers...Time to fire it back up again.   

I bought like 5 behringer eq's because they were cheap, so I can play with putting them between certain analog effects to see what happens.   Thanks for broadening my thought process.

[aron]

The EQ before and after has been one of the very first topics discussed long ago - I mean long ago from R.G. It's been mentioned numerous times. So yeah, you are doing the right thing.

http://www.geofex.com/effxfaq/fxorder.htm

[modsquad]

thanks Aron, I was actually looking for that article.   Lately I have been revisiting my room of effects and rack equipment to see what I want to keep and what I want to get rid of.   I am pretty good at building stuff but no so good with connecting stuff in effects chains that I like.

[Mark Hammer]

The EQ before and after has been one of the very first topics discussed long ago - I mean long ago from R.G. It's been mentioned numerous times. So yeah, you are doing the right thing.

http://www.geofex.com/effxfaq/fxorder.htm

That's probably one of the first things RG and I corresponded about on alt.guitar back in '91.

[Morocotopo]

Some time ago I built a BSIAB II with an active 3 band EQ, switchable between before and after the distortion. EQ before distortion lets you fine tune the "character" of the distortion so to speak, for example, if you boost the mids, the distortion saturates more at those frequencies (fatter). After, it lets you shape the "balance" of frequencies , but doesn´t alter the "character" of the dist.
Only disadvantage of EQ before dist is that it´s hissier.

[davidallancole]

eq-distortion-eq is mentioned several times over at amptone.com.