New Chinese pedal manufacturer?

Started by geertjacobs, July 13, 2010, 02:24:16 AM

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geertjacobs

Got an email this morning from a Chinese manufacturer that presented his range of musical instruments and accessories.
Disclaimer: I have no ties with this company.
They have a range of pedals with some analog BBd pedals too.

http://www.sungyimusic.com/guitarpedal.htm

edit: Discofreq just informed me that he has them listed in his database under "Cherub NuX".
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/cherub

DiscoFreq

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http://www.effectsdatabase.com/country/china


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Philippe

Quote from: geertjacobs on July 13, 2010, 02:24:16 AM
http://www.sungyimusic.com/guitarpedal.htm

Gee with all of those Taiwanese Blue 3PDTs so readily available, you'd think they might offer true bypass switching...unless it's far (& obviously) cheaper to slap-in some sort of buffered switch.

R.G.

Quote from: Philippe on July 13, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
Gee with all of those Taiwanese Blue 3PDTs so readily available, you'd think they might offer true bypass switching...unless it's far (& obviously) cheaper to slap-in some sort of buffered switch.
That statement has the hidden presumption that true bypass is somehow better that buffered bypass.

It is not, in all situations better. True bypass is a solution to a problem that existed when pedals were first being used; the problem is much more of an academic concern now, and true bypass is not nearly as big a concern as it once was.

Small effects shops will advertise "true bypass" hard, as if it's a simple indication of quality. It's not, necessarily. The reasons for buffered bypass are not necessarily "cheaper". If you want to dig in and understand that some more, I'd be happy to help.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

phector2004

Quote from: R.G. on July 13, 2010, 07:28:50 PM
Quote from: Philippe on July 13, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
Gee with all of those Taiwanese Blue 3PDTs so readily available, you'd think they might offer true bypass switching...unless it's far (& obviously) cheaper to slap-in some sort of buffered switch.
That statement has the hidden presumption that true bypass is somehow better that buffered bypass.

It is not, in all situations better. True bypass is a solution to a problem that existed when pedals were first being used; the problem is much more of an academic concern now, and true bypass is not nearly as big a concern as it once was.

Small effects shops will advertise "true bypass" hard, as if it's a simple indication of quality. It's not, necessarily. The reasons for buffered bypass are not necessarily "cheaper". If you want to dig in and understand that some more, I'd be happy to help.

the way I see it, a simple buffer costs considerably less than an extra pole. Harder to design without much knowledge, though.

R.G.

Quote from: phector2004 on July 13, 2010, 07:42:26 PM
the way I see it, a simple buffer costs considerably less than an extra pole. Harder to design without much knowledge, though.
Everything that exists is harder to do without much knowledge.

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R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

Philippe

Quote from: R.G. on July 13, 2010, 07:28:50 PM
Quote from: Philippe on July 13, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
Gee with all of those Taiwanese Blue 3PDTs so readily available, you'd think they might offer true bypass switching...unless it's far (& obviously) cheaper to slap-in some sort of buffered switch.
That statement has the hidden presumption that true bypass is somehow better that buffered bypass.

Not necessarily...just curious. Kind of like why bother buying a milk cow if you live right next door to a Safeway supermarket. BTW, I use both buffered & true-bypass. Each has its place.

R.G.

Quote from: Philippe on July 13, 2010, 11:34:42 PM
Not necessarily...just curious. Kind of like why bother buying a milk cow if you live right next door to a Safeway supermarket. BTW, I use both buffered & true-bypass. Each has its place.
That's true. Sorry I mistook your meaning. Each does have its place, which was my point too.The written word does not carry enough meaning in all cases.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

newperson

I dig a quiet switch rather than the hard loud click of the Blue 3PDT switches.

JKowalski

QuoteFlexible control enables your fancy for crazy sounds

Something about that line "enables your fancy" really appeals to me.  :icon_lol:

darron

OOO... and they come with LEGO expansion blocks! :D

the chinese just can't do it like the japs...
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geertjacobs

QuoteGee with all of those Taiwanese Blue 3PDTs so readily available, you'd think they might offer true bypass switching..

Page 3/4 has some MXR like boxes...
http://www.sungyimusic.com/guitarpedal3.htm

Paul Marossy

They don't look too bad. Interesting looking enclosures, and the battery access door is kind of unique. I wonder what circuits they use...

R.G.

Quote from: Paul Marossy on July 14, 2010, 09:50:45 AM
They don't look too bad. Interesting looking enclosures, and the battery access door is kind of unique. I wonder what circuits they use...
Probably the ones they found here, like everyone else.  :icon_lol:
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

zombiwoof

Some of those pedals look to by Boss clones, they even use similar model numbers for them (OD-2, PH-2, etc.).  And I've seen the MXR-type boxes under the "Belcat" name on Ebay and elsewhere (one of those delays is the Belcat "303" pedal).  So that company is a manufacturer that supplies pedals to other companies to put their name on.  I know the Belcat pedals also are available under a different name.  Byang does that also.

Al

Paul Marossy

Quote from: R.G. on July 14, 2010, 10:02:56 AM
Quote from: Paul Marossy on July 14, 2010, 09:50:45 AM
They don't look too bad. Interesting looking enclosures, and the battery access door is kind of unique. I wonder what circuits they use...
Probably the ones they found here, like everyone else.  :icon_lol:

Yeah, or they are just another clone of something that has already been cloned to death, like a Tube Screamer, etc.