New Orange Squeezer vero layout - pot mounted in a 1590B

Started by trjones1, April 21, 2009, 01:57:00 AM

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trjones1

This is a layout I made for an Orange Squeezer that will fit inside a 1590B box mounted directly to the pot:

http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/Schematics-etc/OrangeSqueezerVero.png.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

It's a tight layout, but if you angle the components around the pot the right way and use small capacitors it will fit just fine.  You may not be able to get sockets in for the jfets, though.  There are also some compromises I had to make, like having two +9V inputs, and the jumper from the R5/C5 junction to the pot, but it's worth it for compactness.

I'm going to call this semi verified right now, as I have it up and running, but haven't tested it out too thoroughly.  I just pulled some random 5458s and put them in.  I might have to match them to get the sound right.  Please point out any mistakes you might see.  Thanks.

Renegadrian

Mmm, Let me tell you there's already one layout (at least) that fits in a 1590B - I used this one



The pot is not mounted on the board, but it nicely fits the enclosure, and there's plenty of workspace...No lilliput soldering skills needed...
Done an' workin'=Too many to mention - Tube addict!

trjones1

Having the board mounted pot is kind of the point of the layout.  I got the idea after receiving a bunch of pots from Futurlec and wondering what could be done with them to take advantage of the pcb mounting lugs.  It's also kind of a fun challenge to see what can be fit onto a 21x8 piece of vero board (which is the maximum size that a board can be and still fit vertically inside the 1590B).  The Orange Squeezer is the biggest circuit I've done so far that'll squeeze (sorry for the pun) onto such a board.

jrod


Renegadrian

Didn't understand you were going to mount it in vertical position! Anyway, it's fun to experiment (after all experimenting is what our hobby is about...), I see a lot of people going the smaller they can, actually I always use 1590B trying to lay the board flat - so no height (row) limit but the 21 holes width limit - I have built the OS easily using the layout I posted - It's good to have more than one layout to choose, as long as they are verified.
Done an' workin'=Too many to mention - Tube addict!

trjones1

Yeah, I guess I wasn't too clear about describing the layout.

Anyway, I've tested this thing in the light of day now and it is working fine, so it's been verified (by me, at least).  If anyone builds this please let me know how it turns out.

solderman

Hi
And for those who prefer to use PCB and 1590A, here is a verefied layout and som pics.

Here is such a OS project. I took the trim Pot outside to be able to adjust it when so I can change from 9V to 12V and get more headroom. Besides that it looks better IMO.
Project File
http://solderman.fatabur.se/Zingo/Zingo_Layout.pdf
PCB transfer
http://solderman.fatabur.se/Zingo/Zingo%20PCB.pdf
The DIY file if someone wants to edit
http://solderman.fatabur.se/Zingo/Orange%20Squizer.diy



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aziltz

has anyone mucked around with an OS to tickle some more of that overdrive out of it?

frequencycentral

Hey that's a neat layout, well done. I personally love doing 21x8 perfs with a couple of submini tubes on.............. :icon_mrgreen:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/

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solderman

Quote from: aziltz on April 21, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
has anyone mucked around with an OS to tickle some more of that overdrive out of it?

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Sustain Control 
The original had no sustain control, and the boutique versions have no sustain control. Let's spend $2. Don't do this on the original :).
The effect contains a little man (OK, two transistors and a diode) who knows when you hit the strings hard, and turns down the volume on your guitar accordingly. There is a volume booster after that, thats how it works. So we adjust the amout of cotton wool in the little man's ears.
Replacing the cotton wool (the 1.5k resistor)  with a 10k "Sustain" pot will vary the compression effect, with minimum compression is maximum volume. Maximum volume may be a liitle loud, since now the volume booster is flat out. You can reduce the value of the 220k resistor for less volume boosting. Or increase it if you actually want distortion. So for less compression you turn the new "Sustain" knob for more cotton wool (resistance), and turn the volume down. This can be an extra preset pot, or add an external Knob. A big volume boost with a little compression and a little distortion could be useful for the Big Solo.
Now, you could replace the 10k resistor with a 10k pot, and make a distortion compressor which cuts bass as you turn up the gain, or replace the 220k resistor with a 1 Meg pot for a distortion compressor which does not cut bass as you turn up the gain. But it's fine as is.

Comes from
http://www.guitar-pedals-effects.com/SustainControl.html

Where there is more

//Solderman
The only bad sounding stomp box is an unbuilt stomp box. ;-)
//Take Care and build with passion

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aziltz


francomanca

Quote from: frequencycentral on April 21, 2009, 08:11:25 PM
Hey that's a neat layout, well done. I personally love doing 21x8 perfs with a couple of submini tubes on.............. :icon_mrgreen:



...this is sexy stuff!!!...would be possible to have some...lay out....infos...etc etc....I'm pretty much ignorant in electronic matter..but I can copy and paste ..

cheers

Franco