Help with ace tone fm-2 please!

Started by troy8422, January 02, 2011, 12:03:49 AM

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troy8422

Hey everyone-

I could use a bit of help with building this ace tone fm-2 pedal.  Found here- http://members.fortunecity.com/uzzfay/fuzzmaster/fm2.html
I'm a noob when it comes to building pedals so anything and everything helps! More specifically, I need help with the off board wiring of the 2 pot's, 2 switches, and the input and output jacks(and what type of switches to use spst dpdt 3pdt etc. and the type of pots to use.)

So I went ahead and purchased this pcb to build it on. http://www.pigeonfx.com/layouts/ACE.html
and I was hoping someone that can help could possibly do a drawing in paint or something of how it's wired up. This is how I mean- (like this http://www.pigeonfx.com/layouts/layoutff.html)

My other question. What is a good replacement transistor for the c369 that is being used in the schematic. http://members.fortunecity.com/uzzfay/fuzzmaster/fm-2.html
I found this and wasn't sure if it was the same thing. http://www2.cricklewoodelectronics.com/Cricklewood/product.php?productid=6083&cat=0&page=1
And then for the diodes do any of you fuzz vets have a suggestion? Just any ol' general purpose silicon?

any help would be greatly appreciated THANKS!!!  :)

--Troy


joegagan

welcome.

this forum is here to promote the hobby, provide encouragement and info. your request sounds like you want it to be like  a paint-by-numbers thing.

you probably would have been better off starting with a kit that already had a diagram like you linked to.

but, really it won't be that hard to figure it out. it will add to your understanding, you will be better off in the long run.

i don't have any recommendations on the transistors, someone else might.
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troy8422

Sorry. I didn't know my sort of post was frowned upon.
I'm not looking for a "paint-by-numbers" thing. I'm trying to verify that the information I've gathered is accurate before I spend money on components that are not needed.
I've read other posts with people asking questions similar to my own and people were replying.
Thanks anyhow.

If anyone has an answer or can point me in the right direction for anything I asked that would be greatly appreciated.
thanks -troy :)

joegagan

i wasn't saying it was frowned upon. you specifically asked someone to do a drawing in a graphics program, i was simply pointing out that this was a tall request, since all the info you need is available through a bit of self discovery around here.

don't be afraid to make a few mistakes. buy some pots, if they are wrong, buy some more. it's all part of learning.

we're not against people asking questions, we're not against helping, but lots of times the info you seek is already here, and it is in your best interest to learn by searching rather than having answers handed to you. don't take it personally.

my life is a tribute to the the great men and women who held this country together when the world was in trouble. my debt cannot be repaid, but i will do my best.

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Jhouse

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we're not against people asking questions, we're not against helping, but lots of times the info you seek is already here, and it is in your best interest to learn by searching rather than having answers handed to you. don't take it personally.

That being said, it's nice if someone steers you in the right direction. I agree with Joe. You learn more if you figure it out on your own, but here a few things that might help without giving away all of the answers.

Wiring up a DPDT switch
I think you can use 2SC828's as the transistors in place of those 2SC369's (not BC369's), but I'm sure 5088's, 5089's, or 3904's would work too. HERE is the datasheet for the 2SC828's. You can use that to determine what transistor you want to use. That pedal is oddly similar to the UNIVOX SUPERFUZZ
The question of what pots to use are in the schematic and on one of your links.
Try messing around with different types of diodes and find a sound that you like. *cough* I think those might be 4141's or 914's from just looking at the picture. They are generic silicon ones for sure. *cough*

troy8422

Hey thanks a lot! Much appreciated.

-troy