Green Russian has sound, but it isnt fuzzing

Started by Milotic, January 04, 2011, 11:10:49 AM

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Milotic

Hey guys
I managed to build a Russian green fuzz a few days ago, using this schematic.  http://www.fredric.co.uk/misc/green%20russian%20big%20muff%20stripboard%20veroboard%20layout.gif
when the switch is on, i don't get a fuzzy signal, i just get a clean signal.  Followed the layout and parts, but only changed 2 values. 1.5M to 1M resistor and a 0.0039uF cap to a 0.0047uF.
Other issues, the Vol. pot also seems to wired backwards in the layout, but not sure if the other pots are wired backwards aswell.

Readings:
Q1 2N5088
C=4.65v
B=0.75v
E=0.16v

Q2 2N5088
C=0.90v
B=0.90v
E=0.28v

Q3 2N5088
C=3.82v
B=0.77v
E=0.19v

Q4 2N5088
C=1.01v
B=1.5v
E=4.47v

Any help would be appreciated.


runmikeyrun

I think the voltage on the collector of Q2 is off... probably should be around the same as the other transistor collector voltages.  Start there and make sure your transistors are oriented correctly.
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StereoKills

First thing I would do is check your offboard wiring and verify that the switch is actually working.
Also, the voltage on Q2 Collector seems very low, should be close to 4v. Also, I think you might have the Collector and Emittor switched on Q4...
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petemoore

Q1 2N5088
C=4.65v  Test this one with audio probe for output to be louder than input
B=0.75v   , this looks like an operational bias setup.
E=0.16v

Q2 2N5088
C=0.90v  Check that C and B aren't connected.
B=0.90v  
E=0.28v

Q3 2N5088
C=3.82v
B=0.77v Perhaps this Q will provide gain.
E=0.19v

Q4 2N5088
C=1.01v
B=1.5v
E=4.47v  Connect E to ground.
 Q2 and any of the transistors, check every resistor setup, for instance is Q2's bias influenced by Q2R to V+ ?
 To test:   Q2C/Q2CR,   Q2CR/V+,  V+ to battery clip 'U', and associated traces and wires. Set meter to 20k range, one probe on Q2C, the other on the battery clip U [+ side].
 The meter should read ~12k through all the solders, wires, and Q2CR.
 Use 'most distant probe points' testing like this to test ground solders and resistors, basically everything on and off the board except capacitors, which basically just work if they don't pass DC, extremely unlikely they are causing the DC misbias.
 Focus the problem finding efforts:
 Where bias problems are found.
 When the audio probe finds a signal block, or gain stage that isn't gaining.  
 Generally once the problem is located/identified, the solution is obvious.
 
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Milotic

thanks guys i just solved it.  there was the tiniest lead splatter between a track.  I got a knife and scrapped it off.

Thanks again.