blending two effects.

[23]

OK so Ive been watching clips on the Lovepedal BBB and that led to the Analog Man Sunlion. Seems to me there the same thing except the BBB has the rangemaster always on and then the fuzz control on the Fuzz Face and the volume control at the end of the whole circuit. What i want to know is how would you make a knob to blend in the rangemaster. Is it a volume knob, but wouldnt that turn down the guitar signal into the fuzz face, so no sound. So how would this be wired or what??

or is something different going on with the BBB. I really like the idea. Does the joe gagan easy face do something similar. JUst search sunlion and BBB on youtube if your lost with what Im talking about.I ahve a Germ FF that I love and would gladly rebox doing this.


thanks sands

[Derringer]

if you wanted to have a true blend in the front of the fuzz face then you'd have to start with something like the buff'n'blend
http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/blocksfragments/BuffNBlend.gif

but then, because it's a Fuzz Face we're talking about here you will need to run the output of the buff'n'blend (or at least on the clean leg of the buffer) into something to simulate a guitar pickup to drive the FF.
Small signal transformers are perfect for this ... check out what Jack says
http://www.muzique.com/lab/pickups.htm

The 42TM018 transformer from Mouser works well here too.

But, you may be able to get away with just adding some resistance in series with the clean leg of the buffer ... something like a 10K resistor can work just fine.

[tasos]

Well why don't you try paralleling two effects with each one his volume?or a stereo pot to select the mix of the two?
I wanna do this sometime..

[Derringer]

Well why don't you try paralleling two effects with each one his volume?or a stereo pot to select the mix of the two?
I wanna do this sometime..

and that may very well be all that's needed

you're right, Occam's razor should be acknowledged

[23]

I think Ive decided to go the sunlion route and have a volume for the rangemaster along with an input cap blend control and then vol and fuzz on the FF. The FF will feed into the rangemaster thus making the boost control on the rangemaster kind of a blend to me, not actually per say but hey you want less rangemaster turn the boost down, right.? One on/off switch. and I was thinking input cap values of .005 to .1, Im looking to go from regular RMaster to a full boost, .1 sound right for the full boost sound?

Both of these pedals should be able to be ran off a single battery or 9 volt adapter shouldnt they?



thanks for the replys, sands

[23]

OK found layouts for 2 effects in one box with 2 switches, but what about 2 effects in one box with 1 switch? Or would it be better to use two switches for what Im wanting to do?

[MikeH]

It might be overkill, but I'd check out the "splitter blend" at runoffgroove.com.  It's essentially 2 parallel effects loops with one pot that is used to blend the two together.  You could build it into your double pedal, or use it as an external, stand-alone box. If you build it as an external box you can use it with all sorts of effects; it becomes very versatile.  You can also use it to add a clean blend to any effect; just jumped one of the loops with a patch cable, or use a switching jack to close the loop when nothing is plugged in.

[23]

womebody solve this for me...

how do you switch on 2 effects in one box with 1 3pdt stomp switch?

I either find crazy ^@#t where someone is trying to turn this effect on and that off and both on or infront of and then behind. Or it turns into I just need to use two switch so I can.....

I just really want to know the answer to this, I was thinking fuzz into rangemaster...fuzz/blend knob for input cap ....boost...need less rangemaster turn the boost down. This way I can get it into a 125b box.

[John Lyons]

This is where RG come in and says he's been doing this since 19XX. 
Check out the panning for fun on Geofex.

[23]

Ive seem some post where the guys need to look at that, to bad Im not registered on most of those forums.

Back to switching with one switch, Could I just...
Input comes into the fuzz face out put goes to the rangemaster then the rangemaster to switch to cut it on/off then output jack, or would that leave the FF on all the time? or would you jsut wire both effects to the same switch?

thanks john for the blender stuff at GEO.....

[MikeH]

womebody solve this for me...

how do you switch on 2 effects in one box with 1 3pdt stomp switch?

I either find crazy ^@#t where someone is trying to turn this effect on and that off and both on or infront of and then behind. Or it turns into I just need to use two switch so I can.....

I just really want to know the answer to this, I was thinking fuzz into rangemaster...fuzz/blend knob for input cap ....boost...need less rangemaster turn the boost down. This way I can get it into a 125b box.

You need to figure out if you're going to run them in series or parallel first.  If you run them in series just connect the output of the first effect to the input of the second.  The remaining input and output are what you connect to your switch.  If you connect them in parallel with some sort of blend control, that's even easier; you'll have one input and one output- just connect them the same way you'd wire up any single effect.

[23]

THanks Im running them in series. and basically Im just looking at it a one big pcb with the in and out of the two connecting each other...

thanks alot guys...

sands