Your thoughts on the NEW Dano Fab pedals ?

Started by DavenPaget, November 27, 2011, 05:04:38 AM

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DavenPaget

Okay , i omit most since i don't need most of the range .
I heard the flanger is bullshit ... Fair enough , i have a flanger on my amp .
These are the ones i am considering .
FAB Echo
FAB Chorus
FAB Delay
And a FAB Fuzz for playing around ( Mind you , i KNOW and don't hate doing SMD ) .
Thoughts ?  :icon_mrgreen:
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DavenPaget

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DavenPaget

No one has any other thoughts , on it's performance per buck ?  :'(
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petemoore

FAB Echo
FAB Chorus
FAB Delay
And a FAB Fuzz for playing around
    Just bought the Fab Echo, the simple slapback [mix/repeat] controls are really easy to set/forget, and it makes my amp sound big, does J Cash tye echo perfectly as any we've tried [I read like 20 reviews]...but it also does really well with rock-slap sounds of J Lennon really well too. Buy don't build if you like it.
   The FAB OD is like a distortion when gain is up, I felt it did a really great job when I was playing through it [my friend owns one].
   I'm not put off in the least by plastic cases anymore...metal is nice but expensive, the circuits don't seem to care about it either...they're so 'the same' [as far as quality sound/parts, not design features] that it shouldn't matter, and doesn't seem to matter even infinitecimally in my tests.
    I have a chorus [analog Rockman Chorus/Delay] and it's short echo is cool too, different sound than the Fab Echo with nearly identical mix/delay settings...
   So...I'd consider [and probably buy] the Delay [for having a long delay pedal which I don't currently have] or any of the others if I liked the sound/features.
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DavenPaget

Quote from: petemoore on November 27, 2011, 08:26:53 AM
    Just bought the Fab Echo, the simple slapback [mix/repeat] controls are really easy to set/forget, and it makes my amp sound big, does J Cash tye echo perfectly as any we've tried [I read like 20 reviews]...but it also does really well with rock-slap sounds of J Lennon really well too. Buy don't build if you like it.
   The FAB OD is like a distortion when gain is up, I felt it did a really great job when I was playing through it [my friend owns one].
   I'm not put off in the least by plastic cases anymore...metal is nice but expensive, the circuits don't seem to care about it either...they're so 'the same' [as far as quality sound/parts, not design features] that it shouldn't matter, and doesn't seem to matter even infinitecimally in my tests.
    I have a chorus [analog Rockman Chorus/Delay] and it's short echo is cool too, different sound than the Fab Echo with nearly identical mix/delay settings...
   So...I'd consider [and probably buy] the Delay [for having a long delay pedal which I don't currently have] or any of the others if I liked the sound/features.

I already have a dist pedal and a overdrive + booster pedal that i am building so i only consider these 3/4 pedals , but if the work well i too can compare the fab with my amp's built in MASSIVE tone stack and effect stack .
I just want to know that they are generally ok to use and not crappy to the point it's so useless  :icon_mrgreen:
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petemoore

  The same, functionally, features vary.
    Tha's my take on it...I'm stickin' with it.
  This reasoning is based on the fact they're made with the quality components other pedals are made from [check and compare data sheets if you can or are inclined to do so].
   Good examples of this are the FTM/French Toast, and a phase circuit that is reportedly identical to the MXR but in a plastic box. They're both reportedly identical in function and component values / circuit topology. Each had 'smart reviews'...ie the reviewer knew circuits, had both circuits on hand to test/verify try out...
   Plastic is very malleable when heated, much easier [and less expensive] to work than metal, the overall build requires greatly reduced labor [just about plunks into the box with jacks etc. attached]...if you yank cables hard the metal box might be preferrable for reliability, otherwise it's something like 10:1 on the cost per pedal...for me the extra cable is affordable, and the replacement box/circuit is still way below what the metalbox version would be...I do my own patch cabling so...plastic is fine for me, doesn't look so 'deluxe cool' but sheep in wolves clothing works for me, this makes it easier for me to get the 'other' speaker or guitar, something that matters more to me.
   For me that just boils down to the features, what knobs does it have and what do they do. My cables are all 'stayed' so the jack-in-PCB is more than usable, the circuits are what the circuits are in either case material...having seen and read how well ground planes can be made to keep noise out without the use of whole metal box...
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Quackzed

My only issue, sadly its a deal breaker for me, is that -to me-their bypass sounds thin. i really like a few of em,fab overdrive ,fab metal and modded fab echo are really good sounding. but after a/b ing their bypass tone with a true bypass box. imho they thin out the tone in bypass.
i guess another issue is that the pc mount jacks are a bit weak and can get iffy... not that bad but not as robust as non-pc mount jacks.
not bad really otherwise, but if your a 'great guitar' into 'great amp' tone purist type, they might be a little dissapointing. but if you always run through at the very least an overdrive pedal and rarely want 'clean clean' from your amp its more a matter of 'does it work with your gear' and probably not much of a problem.
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DavenPaget

Quote from: Quackzed on November 27, 2011, 11:39:20 AM
My only issue, sadly its a deal breaker for me, is that -to me-their bypass sounds thin. i really like a few of em,fab overdrive ,fab metal and modded fab echo are really good sounding. but after a/b ing their bypass tone with a true bypass box. imho they thin out the tone in bypass.
i guess another issue is that the pc mount jacks are a bit weak and can get iffy... not that bad but not as robust as non-pc mount jacks.
not bad really otherwise, but if your a 'great guitar' into 'great amp' tone purist type, they might be a little dissapointing. but if you always run through at the very least an overdrive pedal and rarely want 'clean clean' from your amp its more a matter of 'does it work with your gear' and probably not much of a problem.
The thing is , i am not a tone purist type , actually , i hate tubes .
I already own a awesome distortion pedal that is built rather well , the screws aren't , for only 55$SGD . ( Most pedals here are complete ripoffs  :icon_neutral: )
I do need clean stuff some of the times , but it's alright , i can use tricks on my SS amp .
Yep , it only matters whether it works on my gear or not , the bypass ? HEH , modding it does the trick  :icon_twisted:
I would eventually get a pedalboard BEFORE i buy the lil dano's  :icon_mrgreen:
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DavenPaget

Quote from: petemoore on November 27, 2011, 09:32:23 AM
  The same, functionally, features vary.
    Tha's my take on it...I'm stickin' with it.
  This reasoning is based on the fact they're made with the quality components other pedals are made from [check and compare data sheets if you can or are inclined to do so].
   Good examples of this are the FTM/French Toast, and a phase circuit that is reportedly identical to the MXR but in a plastic box. They're both reportedly identical in function and component values / circuit topology. Each had 'smart reviews'...ie the reviewer knew circuits, had both circuits on hand to test/verify try out...
   Plastic is very malleable when heated, much easier [and less expensive] to work than metal, the overall build requires greatly reduced labor [just about plunks into the box with jacks etc. attached]...if you yank cables hard the metal box might be preferrable for reliability, otherwise it's something like 10:1 on the cost per pedal...for me the extra cable is affordable, and the replacement box/circuit is still way below what the metalbox version would be...I do my own patch cabling so...plastic is fine for me, doesn't look so 'deluxe cool' but sheep in wolves clothing works for me, this makes it easier for me to get the 'other' speaker or guitar, something that matters more to me.
   For me that just boils down to the features, what knobs does it have and what do they do. My cables are all 'stayed' so the jack-in-PCB is more than usable, the circuits are what the circuits are in either case material...having seen and read how well ground planes can be made to keep noise out without the use of whole metal box...
Fair enough  :icon_mrgreen: I've seen and felt a dano pedals but haven't played them and i seem to dig it's schoolboy look ...
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Electron Tornado

The only way to know if a pedal is going to sound good is to go play through one.

There's nothing "wrong" with any of those Fab pedals per se. Some turn up their nose at the plastic enclosure, but really, how hard do you have to stomp on a footswitch? I'm not a real fan of the pots nor the PC mounted jacks, but again, that's something sometimes found on other pedals as well. Having played through some, and talked with people about them, I, and everyone else has been very pleasantly surprised at just how good they sound. I've heard of a couple people preferring the Fab Chorus over a Boss CH-1. The biggest downside for me is that they're just about completely surface mount so mods and repairs fall into the columns "definitely no fun" and "just go buy a new one", respectively.

I'm a bit envious. I wish these had been around when I was kid. For the price of a couple of pedals back then I could have had an entire pedal board.
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DavenPaget

Quote from: Electron Tornado on November 27, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
The only way to know if a pedal is going to sound good is to go play through one.

There's nothing "wrong" with any of those Fab pedals per se. Some turn up their nose at the plastic enclosure, but really, how hard do you have to stomp on a footswitch? I'm not a real fan of the pots nor the PC mounted jacks, but again, that's something sometimes found on other pedals as well. Having played through some, and talked with people about them, I, and everyone else has been very pleasantly surprised at just how good they sound. I've heard of a couple people preferring the Fab Chorus over a Boss CH-1. The biggest downside for me is that they're just about completely surface mount so mods and repairs fall into the columns "definitely no fun" and "just go buy a new one", respectively.

I'm a bit envious. I wish these had been around when I was kid. For the price of a couple of pedals back then I could have had an entire pedal board.
I smell something here , the performance-per-buck is very high in these ,
To me SMD mods are nothing to me , not to others though .
Of course i would say nothing to me , i have done a entire board with components smaller then a 0805 size resistor !
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joelindsey

I love them. $15? Totally worth it! The overdrive is cool because it has a huge amount of boost available. The echo is awesome with the delay time mod. Buy a bunch and rehouse them as a big mult-FX box. The plastic enclosures are surprisingly sturdy.

DavenPaget

Quote from: joelindsey on November 27, 2011, 04:17:29 PM
I love them. $15? Totally worth it! The overdrive is cool because it has a huge amount of boost available. The echo is awesome with the delay time mod. Buy a bunch and rehouse them as a big mult-FX box. The plastic enclosures are surprisingly sturdy.
Then it looks like i'll be playing with the overdrive and not the fuzz  :icon_mrgreen:
My friend was behind me on the idea of buying every single pedal and throwing it into a 1U rack  :icon_mrgreen:
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Puguglybonehead

The Fab Chorus is a great one. Sounds as nice as many more expensive ones do. Best bang-for-the-buck IMO. At $15, you can't even build a boost pedal that cheap.

Flooflox

I have the Fab Chorus and I like it. Sounds lush to me and with the right settings you can get an organ-like tone.
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DavenPaget

Quote from: Puguglybonehead on November 27, 2011, 07:00:59 PM
The Fab Chorus is a great one. Sounds as nice as many more expensive ones do. Best bang-for-the-buck IMO. At $15, you can't even build a boost pedal that cheap.
Exactly , over at tayda i can buy a 1590A for 3.69 , a 3PDT for 2.99 , ( you buy resistors in 1 pack , but if you already ordered , good . ) , 22k resistor , 12k resistor , 68k resistor ( 1cent each and all of them are bought in a pack of ten obviously )
And a J201 i get from Element 14 ... depending on what jacks you want from tayda but i find their plastic jacks somewhat fine . so another 46cents
The problem is when it comes to the 1.5uf cap ... i had a big bunch of unipolar caps i don't know what kind of caps they are ( they're quite small actually ) but i use a multilayer and i regretted it . Damn brick-and-mortar shops can't sell me something decent .
A ARCOTRONICS - R60DF4150506AJ would be fine for pedal use , too big for a guitar cavity . ( Best value , 50 cents for a 5% cap ... WOW )
3.69 + 2.99 + 0.30 ( if you haven't bought any from tayda ) + 0.10 for J201 from E14 (Fairchild , the real mccoy) + 0.92 + 0.50 ( DC power jack , i use a chassis version all the time ) + 0.51 for the 1.5uf + 10uf 35V tayda 0.01
9.02$ total , not bad if you consider it .
But i have my stand , the stratoblaster is very simple and it might need a 1M resistor to ground ( Nah , no need for those ) if you are very pedantic .
Well you could build a classic stratoblaster for low moneh but it definitely won't get you a chorus ... not even by a long shot . Performance-per-dollar on dano's are so good i consider them Grade8(my own grading system  :icon_mrgreen:) / 50$ ( Boss pedals fall under Grade1/50$ , i hate them )
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DavenPaget

Quote from: Flooflox on November 27, 2011, 08:18:48 PM
I have the Fab Chorus and I like it. Sounds lush to me and with the right settings you can get an organ-like tone.
Every pedal and user has a "right" settings  :icon_mrgreen:
Got to say i really love the cute schoolboyish looks of those pedals , looks like those clams you find washed up on a beach  ;D
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petemoore

  Great sound, bypass is what it is, the jacks/PCB thing works when it's new, none of these things improve with age.
   A TL082 works as such whether it's tiny or ''solderable'', same goes for all the other components including the PCB...works the same electronically...the box/shielding seems to be well designed enough that it is insignifigant as long as the unit works.
    I started putting a 'loop-stay' of one kind or the other wherever I have a cable in a yankable position, strain relief IMO is a better way to preserve jacks/plugs and cable integrity, making them all heavier duty is fine, but only goes so far at preventing/protecting against jerk-damage...plastic case is a good alternative for price/weight considerations.
Convention creates following, following creates convention.

DavenPaget

Quote from: petemoore on November 28, 2011, 07:56:52 AM
  Great sound, bypass is what it is, the jacks/PCB thing works when it's new, none of these things improve with age.
   A TL082 works as such whether it's tiny or ''solderable'', same goes for all the other components including the PCB...works the same electronically...the box/shielding seems to be well designed enough that it is insignifigant as long as the unit works.
    I started putting a 'loop-stay' of one kind or the other wherever I have a cable in a yankable position, strain relief IMO is a better way to preserve jacks/plugs and cable integrity, making them all heavier duty is fine, but only goes so far at preventing/protecting against jerk-damage...plastic case is a good alternative for price/weight considerations.
That explains why dano's are the same price ( even lower ) even in my town . All the other pedals are so bloody expensive because either they want to make a massive cut or shipping costs .
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