Modding pedal for BASS. Tips tricks rules? MOOSAPOTOMUS!

Started by BillyJ, August 26, 2003, 05:49:17 PM

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BillyJ

My bass player is really on my butt for something for his rig so I am hoping I can tweak something I have already.
Is there any rules tip or tricks to modding a guitar pedal for use with a bass? I assume input and output caps are the first place to look.
What kind of range is useful for the bass?
Moose can you help?
Thanks for any and all ideas.

Rodgre

including my post about modding the TS circuit, this is at least the THIRD post today about bassifying pedals!

There must be something in the air!

Roger

Gus

Bass effects

 Over the years this comes up again and again.  No real easy answer.

Say you are using a FF type circuit, sometimes reducing the input cap makes it better for bass.  reducing the cap is like a simple eq the ff clips the higher notes,harmonics but some more of the lows come thur less clipped.

I heard of bass players using stock ts9

It also depends in you are on stage or home.  FWIW I have modded a TS for a friend with a switch to take away low before the clipping stage so as not to over extend the speakers in his guitar amp.  this is for when he needs lots of vol on stage.

Thing to know

vented or closed

4 or 5 string

Octave down whammy used

Flats or rounds

Active what active circuit) passive

I would try a stock guitar effect first and them find what you are missing or need and then adjust the circuit.  If you don't know to adjust the circuit post here again.  FWIW example the stock Big Cheese work good on guitar and bass IMO.

I am not a believer of vented boxes for bass.  I like well designed closed box designs.  Just increasing the coupling caps for more bass can hurt a vented system more.  A well sealed box can take more power.  I friend used a 1500 watt amp on my sealed 18" cab.  the cab speaker system was designed for a Q of about 1.1 at 60Hz

gus

Paul Perry (Frostwave)

Some fx can be scaled for bass by just increasing key caps (say x2 or x4) but, if you had a distortion that relied on the IC having decaying frequency response, it might not be so easy.

moosapotamus

In addition to what's already been said, another great way to make a pedal sound good and fat when you're playing bass through it is to blend in some of the clean bass signal.

If you build something like this...
http://www.moosapotamus.com/paraloop/paraloop.htm
... your bass player will be able to do that with any pedal he wants. :D

~ Charlie
moosapotamus.net
"I tend to like anything that I think sounds good."

BillyJ

Awesome!! Gez I am not sure what cabs he plays open or closed but he plays Jazz, Precision, (with passive controls) and an Alembic 4 string with active electroniscs mostly.
But if you have info relative to many different situations I would love to hear about it. Just to cover all Basses....sorry that was a smelly pun indeed!
Moose you are the man!!! I am so on it. I should have gone straight to your site. Great stuff. I am sure my man will be stoked after this next week or two.
PS Moose did you get my email?

Thanks everyone!!!

pedalgrinder

i believe one of the biggest favours you can do for any bass rig is use a variable high pass filter between 20hz and 200hz to clean the mud and shit out. Seriously that and a compressor will make your rig come alive as your reproducing the good stuff not the garbage. Why should your amp work for stuff no one can hear and makes it muddy