Where can I find these capacitors?

Started by dennism, January 08, 2013, 03:19:35 PM

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dennism

Specifically I'm talking about the flat, yellow .01 Philips output capacitor like in a vintage Fuzz Face.


I bought some before from a forum member who had a site called "Classic fuzz", but that doesn't exist anymore.   I can't find them anywhere.   Anyone know?   Or are they unobtainium now?

Here's a link to a picture in case you don't already know what I mean.

http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/fuzzface.php

armdnrdy

If you think it will add to the "magic"...... here you go!

Metallized Polyester Film .01uf 100v axial lead cap.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cornell-Dubilier/WMF1S1K-F/?qs=1XWpZL3Y4NVs4iaeSjgvzA%3d%3d
I just designed a new fuzz circuit! It almost sounds a little different than the last fifty fuzz circuits I designed! ;)

boogietube

They are paper in oil caps  OR  paper and wax capacitors.
NOS are available on ebay.
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armdnrdy

Not according to Phillip Bryant.

What's Inside...The Germanium Years
I think that this pedal's longevity is due in part to its very simple design. There are four resistors, three capacitors, two potentiometers, and two transistors...that's it. The original resistors were 1/2-watt carbon-composition with a tolerance of ±10%. The input capacitor was a 2.2µF electrolytic axial lead. The capacitor from the wiper lug of the fuzz pot to ground was a 20µF electrolytic with axial leads. The 0.01µF capacitor that connected to the third lug of the volume pot was metallized polyester. The original versions of the Fuzz Face were equipped with PNP Germanium transistors. There were at least three types used: NKT275, AC128, and SFT363E. These three transistors are quite hard to come by these days. Beware of modern-day reproductions of the AC128 and NKT275. As for the SFT363E...I've never even seen one! The circuit board below has NKT275 transistors.
I just designed a new fuzz circuit! It almost sounds a little different than the last fifty fuzz circuits I designed! ;)

Kesh

Build one with NOS caps, one with modern yellow box, do a double blind listening test, and report back.

dennism

I probably should have put this in my original post, but I was hopeful that I wouldn't get a bunch of "don't waste your money, these caps sound just like modern caps"-type replies.  Since those replies have begun, let me clarify.

I like the way these caps look, I don't expect magical vintage sounds from them.   I just think they look cool, killer, authentic, (insert adjective here).   If you have suggestions as to where I might purchase them, I would welcome your help.

Thanks for understanding.

Pyr0

I have a bunch of them, they sound sooooo much better   :icon_cool:  how many are you looking for ? I can sell them to you for $5.00 each


or you could just check the Mouser link that armdnrdy posted above.  ;D

gritz

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Quote from: dennism on January 08, 2013, 06:57:03 PM
I probably should have put this in my original post, but I was hopeful that I wouldn't get a bunch of "don't waste your money, these caps sound just like modern caps"-type replies.  Since those replies have begun, let me clarify.

I like the way these caps look, I don't expect magical vintage sounds from them.   I just think they look cool, killer, authentic, (insert adjective here).   If you have suggestions as to where I might purchase them, I would welcome your help.

Thanks for understanding.

It's cool man! If the source says polyester then it's more than possible. Those caps are in a format called "wrap and fill" (google hint). It's a swiss roll* of foil and dielectric, covered with tape and sealed at the ends with epoxy. As well as polyester I know they also made 'em with sealed paper as well as polypropylene (which audiophiles used to go nuts for). So if the usual guitar sources can't help then maybe one of those online audio places that sell $300 volume knobs made of magical wood and crystals that realign the electrons in your speaker cables...  :icon_smile:

*I'm in the U.K and I imagine you're in the States, so I can't really help with sourcing. It occurs to me that you possibly haven't heard of swiss rolls either. Good luck though!

Edit: Oh, "axial" (as in a wire at each end) is another relevent search term if you are still stuck.

Kesh

Quote from: dennism on January 08, 2013, 06:57:03 PM
I probably should have put this in my original post, but I was hopeful that I wouldn't get a bunch of "don't waste your money, these caps sound just like modern caps"-type replies.  Since those replies have begun, let me clarify.

I like the way these caps look, I don't expect magical vintage sounds from them.   I just think they look cool, killer, authentic, (insert adjective here).   If you have suggestions as to where I might purchase them, I would welcome your help.

Thanks for understanding.
fair enough. i have a purely visual preference for larger than necessary resistors.

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Greenmachine

Hee-hee!  That LT pedal is great!  I should've followed that thread more closely.

smallbearelec

I understand what you want and why you want. I do have some old-stock poly-films:

http://www.smallbearelec.com/servlet/Categories?category=Capacitors%2C+Poly+Film%2C+Old-Stock

and I don't charge an arm-and-a-leg. At this time, I don't have exactly the style/value you want, and I will not be visiting again soon the basement where they came from. I Can tell you that "basement"-type surplus places are where to find this kind of part. If you live in or near a large city, there might still be one around. Long-gone from New York, more is the pity.

dennism

Thanks Steve.   Ironically, I just placed an order with Smallbear a couple days ago for germanium transistors and never even looked at the capacitors.   

I had a feeling that these exact capacitors would be hard to find.   I should have bought a pile when I had the chance.  Unfortunately, I live in the deep woods and don't have access to any of those basement surplus places.   Sigh....

duck_arse

the cap in the second pic at fuzz central looks like a 341 series mkt from philips, which makes it

'Philips Moulded Metallised Polyester Capacitor "Mepolesco" type.'
'Dielectric material: Metallised Polyethyleneterephtalate (PETP)'

although this info came from an ebay seller, so a grain of salt may be called for.
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Magnus

#14
Hello,
I got mine from eBay some time ago, they are old NOS Siemens:
http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/17258/NOS_Siemens_%28flat%2C_oval%29.jpg

Polystyrene
0,01uF / 10nF
630 Volts
flat, oval / axial

...and they really fit the nice look of a fuzz face-board  :)
http://forum.musikding.de/cpg/albums/userpics/17258/Elektronik%7E9.jpg


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