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Troggs Fuzz?!?!?

Started by superferrite, March 01, 2013, 10:21:14 AM

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superferrite

My buddy from local Sixties-Style heroes the Resonars (look them up, folks--brilliant) asked me to build him a "Troggs Fuzz."

The Troggs just ain't one of those bands with lots of Youtube Pedalboard videos.  Hell, they are pre-everything!

Must have been an early Tonebender, maybe a first generation FuzzFace, or a stray Maestro that made it across the pond somehow.
Can the intrepid Fuzzgurus hereabouts give me a heads-up?  Looking for a sound, not an exact replica.  My pal uses a Tele and Twin Reverb exclusively, and I'm sure the Troggs probably used Voxes since they were Invasion lads.

My thought is a Heathkit TA28 might fit the bill, since it is gnarly and kazoo-like but is stable here in Arizona.  Germanium is a bitch with the 40-degree temperature swings every day!

Thanks for your consideration.
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Mark Hammer

I only saw the Troggs once.  When did they use a fuzz?

superferrite

Good question.   Maybe an AC-30-in-a-box like a ROG Tonemender might help the guy out.
They seem like a plug-in type band, from the tracks I'm familiar with.
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jessetrbo

"I Can Only Give You Everything"  (live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbkgga9XyAA

"From Home"  (live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QB6xjpOhk0

Really cool group... I wish that I could have seen them!

--Jesse
Jesse Trbovich -- Philadelphia

Arcane Analog

The first album was a MKI. After that it was a Buzzaround.

superferrite

WOW, Thanks!  Great band, RIP Reg!

I'll send these to the guy.  Sounds like a Tonebender.  I'll lend him a fuzzface and see if it does the trick in the mean time, but it is probably not what he wants.

Buzzaround!
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PRR

#6
> they are pre-everything!

Hmmm....

True, there is a lot of Post-Troggs music. They set a tone everybody else either adopted or avoided.

But while the on-floor fuzz-box was new (and I'm not sure I hear one in the Troggs), fuzz (as OVER-driven amplifier) was hardly new.

Dick Dale playing LOUDER than sin? 1962, 1963, 2008

Link Wray slashing his speaker-cone for fuzz-tone. 1958 (Troggs surely knew Link's work.)

Les Paul.... listen to the intro on Summertime. 1952 (Yeah, smothered in reverb.rb.rb.....)

Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys, Cotton Eyed Joe, 1946, solos get into fuzz territory.
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superferrite

Good points--the Troggs and the Beatles, Stones, Pretty Things, Yardbirds, Kinks, Them, etc just repackaged our music and sent it back.
Still a great band though.
Sounds like they used the fuzztone pretty sparingly, but you can hear it ripping on those Paris live tracks.
Pretty standard buzzy ear shredding sixties sounding.  I love it.
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Nasse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3TgioizoTQ

I´ts on the fingers? To me it sounds bit like played trough a kazoo... Some time ago looked and the original guitarist was with the group on late performances
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superferrite

Bison bass FTW!

So what's the funky wedge pedal?  And more importantly, where can suckers like us buy enclosures like that?!?
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R.G.

More importantly, the bassist has stepped on his cord, and he's one quick, choreographed turn left away from pulling the cord out. Ask me why I ...er, now... notice things like this.  :icon_lol:

Beyond that, anyone know where I can get CDs of the Troggs? Did any of that ever get put on CD?

N.B. I prefer CDs so I can do my own reduction to MP3 as well as archiving lossless.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

John Lyons

The wedge is a Burns Buzzaround.  :icon_rolleyes:
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R.G.

Kewl. Ordered.

I was listening to radios when the Troggs first hit the USA charts, back in ... er, a century or two ago.  :icon_biggrin:

I see from the titles list that the Troggs recorded Louie Louie too. Louie Louie has been recorded more often than any other title, I understand. Which is neither here nor there, but it bubbled up.
R.G.

In response to the questions in the forum - PCB Layout for Musical Effects is available from The Book Patch. Search "PCB Layout" and it ought to appear.

davent

"If you always do what you always did- you always get what you always got." - Unknown
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petey twofinger

#16
i bet the lyrics are different on every single version too . ( louie louie )

how many versions include the false start ?

a few members here have actually modified typical hammond style aluminum boxs into wedge shapes . the craftsmanship / gumtion displayed at this place is humbling .
im learning , we'll thats what i keep telling myself

LucifersTrip

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Quote from: petey twofinger on March 02, 2013, 04:09:41 PM
i bet the lyrics are different on every single version too . ( louie louie )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTldFyM-XJA

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how many versions include the false start ?

too many versions to tell, but here's probably the ultimate version...1966, believe it or not
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku87A2hOQU4

what fuzz did they use?
always think outside the box

superferrite

You guys rule.  Gonna buy that CD, too!

Wonder if one can simply sand a Hammond box into a wedge with a disc sander and plenty of time...

BTW, my buddy is bidding on a Buzzaround clone on Ebay right now, so I'm off the hook.  I don't have too many nice Ge transistors hanging around these days anyway.
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LucifersTrip

Quote from: superferrite on March 02, 2013, 09:39:32 PM

BTW, my buddy is bidding on a Buzzaround clone on Ebay right now, so I'm off the hook.  I don't have too many nice Ge transistors hanging around these days anyway.

the 1st two (darlington pair) can be low hfe (40-50). it's only q3 you have to take the time to choose....so you only need one really "good" ge
always think outside the box