What to do with an old practice amp?

Started by Focalized, August 17, 2013, 01:51:44 AM

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Focalized

My first amp, Fender Bullit. Thought maybe I could build a better little solid state amp with maybe a couple built in effects.

Any recommendations? Maybe something a bit more than the Ruby type projects I've seen. How about one with a one tube preamp. Anything to give me ideas.

GibsonGM

You could tear out your amp's preamp section, and yes, do a nice tube preamp! Get some preamp crunch!     

Or build in a simple preamp, add pre and post EQ, PLUS selectable overdrive, crunch distortion, and metal distortion ;o)   With appropriate recovery stages where you have insertion loss, of course...that would cover all your clipping needs...

I'm not familiar with the Bullit or what it puts out, probably not a lot.  So you kinda have to balance doing cool things to it with the payback (can you use it live? Maybe do a line out so you could? That sort of stuff).    But you really could have fun with it! 
Let us know what you decide to do...
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Gus

Do you have access to a good speaker and cab with the same ohms rating as the Bullit that you could try with the amp? 
The schematic shows a current feedback design
http://support.fender.com/schematics/guitar_amplifiers/Bullet_Reverb_schematic.pdf

You might be surprised as how good a practice amp can sound with a good speaker(s) and cabinet.  Current feedback can sound very nice with solid state amps.

Focalized

A little all tube amp seems nice, but wanted to try something with parts I already have. Not buying a PCB I mean. Tube wise I have some preamp tubes.


It has an external speaker out but I don't have a extension cab. Just a few other combo amps. Is it safe to plug speaker out into another amp? I kind of remember doing something like that long ago when I got my second crappy amp.

My champ is 4 ohms but no point in trying that, probably sound the same. My Classic 30 is 16 Ohms. My Tech 21 amp is 8 ohms with a 12in speaker. Might sound better through it.

But I'm still thinking about a small amp with a couple effects so that I can reuse the full front panel with has seven pots. I firstly looked sat the little Ruby amps and Noisy Cricket.

GibsonGM

Check out some of the tube preamps that are rolling around on here; low voltage stuff running on anywhere from 12 to 40 volts!   12AU7's and the like, giving good results at lower B+'s.   Don't go towards 12AX7's unless you plan to provide them a much higher voltage to run on  ;)

If your power supply can handle it, you might be able to do more than the traditional 2 stage/1 triode thing...you could possibly do FOUR stages, so you can drive a tone stack as well as get your crunch! 
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Gus

I think you should try the amp with other speakers. 
The drive section has diode clipping compare that section to a blues breaker, note how the gain control works
A link about feedback http://sound.westhost.com/project56.htm

I tend to like a single 12" speaker much more than a single 8"  for guitar with an open back cabinet.
A good tube amp with a 8" speaker will still be limited by the cabinet and speaker size

Look at speaker prices and construction

A friend had bought a nice 2 x12 cab we installed a good pair of speakers I forget the model we used a solid state practice amp to test it(older voltage feedback type).  It sounded very good nothing like the sound of the  8" speaker and small open back cabinet.

Focalized

I'll try it with my Trademark 60 once I get some extensions to the speaker wires made up.

My original idea was a Ruby or Noisy Cricket with a couple effects. Just never looked into those little amps before. I'd have to figure how to power it all with one source I hope. I'm not really comfortable with higher voltage work aside from a kit with good instruction like the Champ I built.