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Started by Kipper4, August 17, 2013, 03:32:34 PM

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Kipper4

Has anyone got any spare Anti static bags going gash please.
I've only got the one and its full to bursting with transistors and op amps.
I can exchange for some foam for enclosure lids by return of post
Thanks
Rich
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Kipper4

Heres a photo of a sample of the foam i use inside my boxs.
I find it easy to use. Just place the foam on a flat surface and press the upside down lid into the foam to make an impression and cut around it then i use hotmelt glue to stick it on. I also use it to back pcbs without any static issues so far.
its a couple of mm thick. I've got some big sheets that where gifted from work. A waste product used to protect rubber printing stereo plates in transit.


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7ma9n53c5jqdgsr/d-0TvwYXDL#lh:null-Foam.jpg
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samhay

I can probably find 1 or 2.
I don't use them very much as most components are far less static sensitive than their packaging would lead you to believe. MOSFETs are the main exception to this.
I'm a refugee of the great dropbox purge of '17.
Project details (schematics, layouts, etc) are slowly being added here: http://samdump.wordpress.com

Kipper4

Thanks Sam
i think i have it covered now.
When i googled it i realised those pink bubble wrap bags Tayda send stuff in are anti static too.
and i'm not short of those.
Mosfets is exactly what i want them for mate.
However if anyone wants some foam just pm me
Thanks
Rich
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R O Tiree

Have a look at this youTube vid from a chap in Oz. His voice is really annoying, at least at first, but stick with him... it's very illuminating.
...you fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way...

Kipper4

Intresting thanks a bunch.
If thats the case the search is back on for some proper bags.
Sam sorry about that your bags would be more than welcome.
Rich
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armdnrdy

#6
Eighteen minute video recap:

The pink "antistatic" bags and the plastic "antistatic" IC tubes don't create a static charge but a static charge can penetrate though this packaging and damage ICs. (how did I store my collection of BBD ICs hmmm  :icon_eek:)

The metallized film bags do not generate static and actually stop an electrical static charge from penetrating through the bag possibly damaging it's contents.

Very informative video Mike!

I just designed a new fuzz circuit! It almost sounds a little different than the last fifty fuzz circuits I designed! ;)

pappasmurfsharem

#7
Since I believe you are on the other side of the pond you could get them direct from farnell

http://uk.farnell.com/_/280-082/bag-antistatic/dp/522880
Minimum Order Quantity: 100
Unit Price: £0.057  
although those come from hongkong so who knows?

the 3M ones are DAMN expensive.

like $19-30 per bag.

it would appear the 3M bags by weight almost cost as much as Gold..... ridiculous.


Found in the description it's actually 100 per pack. pack quanitity said only 1 and I didn't see a quanitity before.

Looks like Amazon UK has a 100PK of what appears to be 3M static bags for


Price:   £10.66
http://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-1000-Shielded-100X150MM-PK100/dp/B0053ZEDNW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1376851258&sr=8-3&keywords=3M+Static+bag

might not be the real deal though?
"I want to build a delay, but I don't have the time."

samhay

I have a few pink bags, but I don't think I have any of the magic black ones. 5p a bag seems quite reasonable, but if you want smaller volumes, maybe try somewhere like here: http://www.simply-envelopes.co.uk/product/2919/130x80-mm-smoke-grey-anti-static-bag/7f2661f355b69ea68a08de6a37128bff
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Project details (schematics, layouts, etc) are slowly being added here: http://samdump.wordpress.com


Kipper4

Ma throats as dry as an overcooked kipper.


Smoke me a Kipper. I'll be back for breakfast.

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mistahead

Make friends with the local IT shop.

EVERY Dell, HP or other brand machine comes with at least fourteen million of these bags, twelve cubic meters of styrofoam and around ninety-one square meters of cardboard.

Jobs I don't miss - deploying these PCs.

bluebunny

^^^  There you go, Rich - build yourself a DIY PC and you'll have all the anti-static bags you need!   :D

BTW, I keep nothing in anti-static bags except my MOSFETs, and I haven't managed to destroy one yet.  And all my ICs go in one of these:

 (<--links to Rapid website)
  • SUPPORTER
Ohm's Law - much like Coles Law, but with less cabbage...

Kipper4

I asked the IT guy at work if he see some to save them for me too. Although he's not that friendly usually so i dont hold out much hope.
I'll keep looking
Thanks
Its the mosfets i want them for mostly.
My Ic seem to fair well in my old ice cream tub.
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defaced

Aluminum foil lined container or similar. 
-Mike

Hemmel

Bought two of these : http://www.rona.ca/en/organizer-8129044 to store all my parts.
These organizers aren't static-free. Anyway I could make them static-free ?
Bââââ.

defaced

Line them with aluminum foil ;)
-Mike

Hemmel

Quote from: defaced on August 19, 2013, 01:09:18 PM
Line them with aluminum foil ;)

Not sure how to interpret your smiley face...
Sarcasm or friendly advice ?
Bââââ.

defaced

Friendly advice; I just found it humorous that I answered your question before you asked it (points to my first post in this thread).  To provide anti-static protection, all you need is something conductive so that when the legs of the component touches the surface, there isn't a voltage difference between the legs (and any charge present on the legs and be dissipated).  This is what the foil bags and black foam provide - conduction.  So you can provide that same function by covering the inside of any container with a conductive material.  Aluminum foil happens to be very inexpensive and common, so I recommended it, though any conductive material will work.

Alternatively, I like the black foam, so I bought a sheet of it.  I cut the sheet into smaller pieces, maybe 2" square, and my ICs in it, then slide that sleeve/IC assembly into a paper coin envelope.  You could do the same thing with your drawers. 
-Mike

Hemmel

Geez ... I really just skipped over that one-line post ! Sorry ...  ;)

I'm gonna try the aluminum foil tonight, thanks !  ;D

Right now all my ICs are stored in those little plastic drawers, just floating about (i.e. no foam). Also, my transistors are in separate mini-ziploc bags, which are in the same plastic drawers.
I don't recall ever getting any static discharge anywhere in my appartment (one reason is there's absolutely no carpet anywhere) so I'm guessing the environment is low-static.
Do you think I still might've caused ESD damage to my ICs and/or transistors ?
Bââââ.