Best source for GOOD companders

[ggedamed]

Even on eBay one cannot keep selling fakes on long term. Buyers not checking seller's reputation are not that many.

[Scruffie]

Even on eBay one cannot keep selling fakes on long term. Buyers not checking seller's reputation are not that many.

I've checked feedback from sellers on specific purchases such as an MN3005, selling known fakes and they've received good feedback on them, I think people get the item and don't check it.

Also, a lot of these guys have 20,000+ feedback or whatever, if they sell a majority of legitimate components that are still available easily but when it comes to DIY parts that may only make up a small amount of what they sell, the feedback % doesn't suffer that much.

[ggedamed]

Even on eBay one cannot keep selling fakes on long term. Buyers not checking seller's reputation are not that many.

I've checked feedback from sellers on specific purchases such as an MN3005, selling known fakes and they've received good feedback on them, I think people get the item and don't check it.

Also, a lot of these guys have 20,000+ feedback or whatever, if they sell a majority of legitimate components that are still available easily but when it comes to DIY parts that may only make up a small amount of what they sell, the feedback % doesn't suffer that much.

The BBD chips are ESD sensitive. It's not that hard to damage them and it can happen on any step from the manufacturer to the PCB. For me is easier to think that the chip got damaged somehow without anyone noticing than that some people buy parts to use them and they don't notice the parts are fried.

[Scruffie]

I realise they are (although they are not as ESD sensitive as some parts) but people have bought 200 pieces, none of which worked, all sharing the same date code and all of them clearly not MN3005s, even from reputable sellers like UT Source.

Even EHX has been hit by fake MN3005s for their Deluxe Memory Man Tap Tempo 1s, which is how the Memory Man TT 550 came out where they used 3008s instead, which are easier to get.

Smallbear also got fake 3005s that were re-stamped 3008s.

I've seen it a lot of times, as have others, in fact there's a page on how to spot them on line.

I have a bunch of re-stamped chips here, it's clear they are as the tops are freshly stamped where as the bottoms are a lot older and all show different batch codes.

[chromesphere]

Interesting debate, something I had never thought of to be honest (not fake, just mislabelled / faulty / other).  I think if you can rub off a label with alcohol then there is no doubt that its a fake (which has happened before I believe).  I guess there could be mn3005's that were manufactured in a faulty batch with only half the delay time?  There's also the concern that there are ALOT of different people receiving these parts, not everyone knows what their doing and could falsely report a chip as 'fake' even though it actually works as it should.

I think there is enough money in certain chips to warrant counterfeiting though.  what sort of equipment would be required to re-label a chip?

[PRR]

> what sort of equipment would be required to re-label a chip?

Fine silk-screen? An old-skool T-shirt shop would be able to order fine silk and a small screen holder.

[armdnrdy]

> what sort of equipment would be required to re-label a chip?

Fine silk-screen? An old-skool T-shirt shop would be able to order fine silk and a small screen holder.

There might be a T-shirt shop in China....wait...let me check my closet.......

By some of the re-labeling I've seen, I wouldn't rule out some sort of hand held stamping device....rubber stamp?

[duck_arse]

pad printer?

[bluebunny]

Jon Patton and a fine paint brush?