Can somebody check my offboard wiring please?

Started by Vexd, January 25, 2014, 12:19:17 PM

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bluebunny

Quote from: pappasmurfsharem on January 26, 2014, 03:41:19 PM
His battery ground connect to the DCjack gnd then that runs to the ring. His battery will still disable when a jack isn't inserted

True.  And the DC -ve input will also be disconnected with no jack inserted.  Not wrong, just uncommon.
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Vexd

Quote from: LucifersTrip on January 26, 2014, 02:55:27 PM
first, lemme say it'd be great if more people posted clear, labeled pics when asking for troubleshooting...but...

"I'm feeling confident that my circuit on the stripboard is okay"

still, always best to check BEFORE offboard wiring so that can be eliminated as a problem if troubleshooting is necessary.

once again, start with circuit voltages and someone'll probably pinpoint the problem quicker.



thanks man, i tried with the photos, but ill include diagrams in the future. The stripboard layout i know is correct, the only thing i was unsure of was the offboard layout, I just wanna make sure that is correct first, then if the problem persists i know its my poor soldering on the stripboard or bad components or something  :icon_biggrin:

pappasmurfsharem

Quote from: Vexd on January 26, 2014, 05:33:13 PM
thanks man, i tried with the photos, but ill include diagrams in the future. The stripboard layout i know is correct, the only thing i was unsure of was the offboard layout, I just wanna make sure that is correct first, then if the problem persists i know its my poor soldering on the stripboard or bad components or something  :icon_biggrin:

Your wiring looks to be electronically correct.

Pictures of the Trace side, and check the Debugging thread and post voltages.
"I want to build a delay, but I don't have the time."

Vexd

Quote from: pappasmurfsharem on January 26, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: Vexd on January 26, 2014, 05:33:13 PM
thanks man, i tried with the photos, but ill include diagrams in the future. The stripboard layout i know is correct, the only thing i was unsure of was the offboard layout, I just wanna make sure that is correct first, then if the problem persists i know its my poor soldering on the stripboard or bad components or something  :icon_biggrin:

Your wiring looks to be electronically correct.

Pictures of the Trace side, and check the Debugging thread and post voltages.

Do I still need to remove that purple switch to circuit wire for it to be correct?

Also, here are the pics of the board and how I did the pots, I've been through it with a razor trying to make sure I haven't bridged anything, but it's still a mess, prepare for bad.

I think I'm, just gonna start fresh with it tbh.




pappasmurfsharem

Quote from: Vexd on January 27, 2014, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: pappasmurfsharem on January 26, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: Vexd on January 26, 2014, 05:33:13 PM
thanks man, i tried with the photos, but ill include diagrams in the future. The stripboard layout i know is correct, the only thing i was unsure of was the offboard layout, I just wanna make sure that is correct first, then if the problem persists i know its my poor soldering on the stripboard or bad components or something  :icon_biggrin:

Your wiring looks to be electronically correct.

Pictures of the Trace side, and check the Debugging thread and post voltages.

Do I still need to remove that purple switch to circuit wire for it to be correct?

Also, here are the pics of the board and how I did the pots, I've been through it with a razor trying to make sure I haven't bridged anything, but it's still a mess, prepare for bad.

I think I'm, just gonna start fresh with it tbh.





Because you have removed the red wire to the switch the purple wire will do nothing so its not hurting you really. It's basically an open connection
"I want to build a delay, but I don't have the time."

The French connection

Reflow all your connections and/or solder them properly!

watch this video  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4
I know, but the pedal i built does not boost...it just increases volume!
My picture files:
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/French+connection/
http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z4/letournd/Pedal/

Vexd

Quote from: The French connection on January 27, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
Reflow all your connections and/or solder them properly!

watch this video  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4


Nice video, thanks!

I'm just gonna redo the circuit, the stripboard is in such a mess and I've got loads of components.

Thanks for checking my offboard wiring guys, hopefully if i redo-the board and put it in it will work, ill update this thread once ive done it ;)

pappasmurfsharem

Quote from: Vexd on January 27, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
Quote from: The French connection on January 27, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
Reflow all your connections and/or solder them properly!

watch this video  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4


Nice video, thanks!

I'm just gonna redo the circuit, the stripboard is in such a mess and I've got loads of components.

Thanks for checking my offboard wiring guys, hopefully if i redo-the board and put it in it will work, ill update this thread once ive done it ;)

Remember plan out those wires
cut the lengths you need to keep things tidy.

rather than shoot across the board consider following the sides of the box.
makes debugging alot easier
"I want to build a delay, but I don't have the time."

The French connection

This tuto can help on doing your vero:
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/DRAGONFLY-LAYOUTS_0/TUTORIALS/album21/
Quote from: pappasmurfsharem on January 27, 2014, 02:54:17 PM


Quote from: pappasmurfsharem on January 27, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
Remember plan out those wires
cut the lengths you need to keep things tidy.

rather than shoot across the board consider following the sides of the box.
makes debugging alot easier


+1

Good luck!
I know, but the pedal i built does not boost...it just increases volume!
My picture files:
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/French+connection/
http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z4/letournd/Pedal/

duck_arse

vexd, somebody, somewhere else has probably said it to you, but it can't hurt hearing it again. you need to really clean your copper before you solder, then the flux can do its work. the solder needs to look like it is "pulling" on the copper and the component lead, not grainy. practise, and a little more heat, it only takes about 30 years, then you can't see anyway.

and make those track cuts cuts. no pussyfooting, shift that copper. some of yours look a little suss.

does your solder have a flux core, by the way?
" I will say no more "

Vexd

okay, so I completely started again, new parts and everything  :icon_biggrin:

can somebody post a diagram how i should wire this thing properly please? sure will be appreciated! i can stick and LED in aswell now  :icon_cool:

pappasmurfsharem

Use the switch wiring I posted before. Then your DC wiring was correct the last time. So you should be OK.

I really think your problem was that solder. It didn't even look like it was touching the copper in most areas. Assuming you've resolved that after watching the video posted above you "SHOULD" be ok.
"I want to build a delay, but I don't have the time."

Vexd

Quote from: pappasmurfsharem on February 08, 2014, 05:59:11 PM
Use the switch wiring I posted before. Then your DC wiring was correct the last time. So you should be OK.

I really think your problem was that solder. It didn't even look like it was touching the copper in most areas. Assuming you've resolved that after watching the video posted above you "SHOULD" be ok.

thanks man! yeh my soldering is a lot smoother now, flows really well  :icon_biggrin:

Vexd

switch wired up, only thing im unsure of now is where to put the ground wires, on the output jack? or input?  ???

Schizo910

#34
On both of them (sleeve).

I like to use this method:


Vexd

Quote from: Schizo910 on February 10, 2014, 06:14:27 AM
On both of them (sleeve).

I like to use this method:



does it matter which ground wires go to which jack?

Jdansti

No.  You should ground both jack sleeves (and board, 0V from power (negative), and anything else that needs to be grounded to a common point. That point could either of the jack sleeves, the board ground, the chassis/enclosure, or the negative terminal of your power jack. In Vexd's example, everything is grounded to the board ground.
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Vexd

Quote from: Jdansti on February 10, 2014, 09:25:52 PM
No.  You should ground both jack sleeves (and board, 0V from power (negative), and anything else that needs to be grounded to a common point. That point could either of the jack sleeves, the board ground, the chassis/enclosure, or the negative terminal of your power jack. In Vexd's example, everything is grounded to the board ground.

so all grounds to output jack?

The French connection

Quote from: Vexd on February 13, 2014, 10:42:25 AM
so all grounds to output jack?

Search Star grounding...Even it's not necessary in stompboxes. Anyway, i ground everything to the negative power dc jack or i use a little piece of vero and route all my ground and +power to it and finally to the dc jack! It depends on the way you organise all your wire inside your box. Keep it clean!  ;)
I know, but the pedal i built does not boost...it just increases volume!
My picture files:
http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/French+connection/
http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z4/letournd/Pedal/

Jdansti

Quote from: Vexd on February 13, 2014, 10:42:25 AM
Quote from: Jdansti on February 10, 2014, 09:25:52 PM
No.  You should ground both jack sleeves (and board, 0V from power (negative), and anything else that needs to be grounded to a common point. That point could either of the jack sleeves, the board ground, the chassis/enclosure, or the negative terminal of your power jack. In Vexd's example, everything is grounded to the board ground.

so all grounds to output jack?

That's one option. French likes to ground everything to the neg power jack lug. Some like to ground everything to the board. The main thing is that all of the grounds, including the jack sleeves, are tied together.
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