univibe on vero... can it be done?

[pinkjimiphoton]

has anyone pulled this off? before i go trying, would love to see if there's a verified layout i could use instead.
doesn't look impossible, looks easier than the clone theory was...

thoughts? suggestions?

or should i hold out and see if someone can burn me a board?

thanks guys

[digi2t]

Yoda: No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try.

After all, if I could do the Ludwig PII, and Infinitphase on vero... 

[R.G.]

General Guitar Gadgets has my layout of the univibe for sale. They're quite reasonable - about $15 or so; I haven't looked recently - and they'll save you more than that amount of dollars in time building and debugging.

[IvIark]

I don't think any analog effect is beyond the realms of possibility because even the big ones are straightforward enough if you're happy enough to have a big board.  The reason I made the choice to stay away from anything too complicated on vero is firstly because I would always prefer to build them myself on a PCB, but mainly that I still spend a significant amount of time supporting the layouts and fault finding other peoples builds, and if I'm still doing it for Super Hard On's and Emerson EM Drives, it doesn't bear thinking about how much time I would spend doing it for the more complicated effects and I simply don't have time to do it.

But I will be watching with interest

[pinkjimiphoton]

General Guitar Gadgets has my layout of the univibe for sale. They're quite reasonable - about $15 or so; I haven't looked recently - and they'll save you more than that amount of dollars in time building and debugging.

thanks RG, there's so many variants to choose from in vibes, but i'm thinking it may be the next logical progression for me... you probably don't remember me emailing you thru geofex with wah questions many years ago, but that was the beginning.. when i figured it out and emailed you back... this must have been around 2000 or so... you told me
"cool!! now make loud scary noises".... too cool.  

then amps, to fuzz... gotta try a phase shifter some time, right?

i believe i will pull the trigger sir. thanks.

Yoda: No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try.

After all, if I could do the Ludwig PII, and Infinitphase on vero...  

yah, but can it fit in a 1590a?

i would kinda like to take a crack at it someday tho...be cool to make something that would just fit in a crybaby shell...

is that the project you'd reccomend, RG?


@mark.... well, one day... mayyyyyyybe... i bet it could be done, but it's probably still way above my paygrade..
i mean, maybe two boards sandwiched on top of each other that fill most of the shell or something... where there's a will..

and what do you guys think... is it really important to do the incandescent bulb, or could it be simplified and still sound the same?
too much debate on the net to research and expect any kind of honest answer cuzz SOME @ZZ#073 always has to pipe in with mojo.

mojo is in your fingers way more than in components in my limited experience. to me, if it does the job and sounds good, it's good, i don't really care how i get there so much.

so i figure i'd ask you guys your opinions.
i've built a clone theory on vero... it was a bitch and still slightly buggy (I do use it live tho)
and a magnavibe
and an opto tremolo kinda gizmotron....

and also... mark... i hear ya at the debugging. i get asked how to debug stuff i can't even remember building sometimes.
i still can't get my little angel to work. but boy, when it did..

[The French connection]

http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/cathexis/Veroboard+Layouts/Easy+Vibe+LERA/

and

http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/cathexis/Veroboard+Layouts/Neo-Vibe/

[haveyouseenhim]

or should i hold out and see if someone can burn me a board?

Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me this time.

[digi2t]

Magna-vibe is a small nice (easy) vero.

How about a Neo-vibe on vero? It's already out there, but I think I could compress it to fit a Crybaby shell.

[bcalla]

http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main.php/v/cathexis/Veroboard+Layouts/Easy+Vibe+LERA/

Has anyone ever pulled of this LERA version?  I tried a few years ago and gave up.

[pinkjimiphoton]

lol!!!!

built a magnavibe, but it just plain ain't acidic enough for the abcesses betwixt my ears.

i've been looking at the neovibe, also looked at rg's suggestion and the "forumvibe" too.

trying to decide if i wanna commit to building a univibe, or just settling for something easier to do.

dino, would love to see something that would fit in a crybaby shell. there's actually a lot of room in them if one's creative enough i guess.

[R.G.]

dino, would love to see something that would fit in a crybaby shell. there's actually a lot of room in them if one's creative enough i guess.

Well, there's UVICS (Univibe In a Crybaby Shell) and Son of UVICs at geofex.com:

http://geofex.com/FX_images/UVICS-3%20Project%20File-3.pdf

But you'd have to make your own PCB or ply some friend with enough foaming mental lubricant to make it so. 

[pinkjimiphoton]

i like that idea immensely RG.... turning my mental powers up.... lol

i like the idea of it being self contained.

i think i gotta return a few favors first before i ask for any more...lol

[StephenGiles]

Of course it can be built on vero. Just needs a lot of practice to gain confidence. Forget box size, I never understood obsession with tiny boxes, more important to give yourself enough space on the veroboard and then get a box to fit. But we've been through all that before!

Can't find photos of my biggest vero builds at the moment.

[Eb7+9]

Univibe meets Magnatone480 ... built on strip board //

http://www.lynx.bc.ca/~jc/stereoVibe1.html

two Univibe circuits running in anti-phase ...
probably the best sounding of my three stereo-vibe units

[IvIark]

Forget box size, I never understood obsession with tiny boxes, more important to give yourself enough space on the veroboard and then get a box to fit.

That may be the most important consideration to you, but not everyone.  I don't have a pedalboard and all the effects I use in my chain are mounted on a rack tray, so having an effect the size of a DVD player will never be an option I would consider.  And in the days of surface mount and/or cheap PCB fabbing, I don't see why it would need to be.

[StephenGiles]

See reply 17!!

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=27071.0

[StephenGiles]

Forget box size, I never understood obsession with tiny boxes, more important to give yourself enough space on the veroboard and then get a box to fit.

That may be the most important consideration to you, but not everyone.  I don't have a pedalboard and all the effects I use in my chain are mounted on a rack tray, so having an effect the size of a DVD player will never be an option I would consider.  And in the days of surface mount and/or cheap PCB fabbing, I don't see why it would need to be.

Yes I see your point and respect your choice, but those of us who only build on veroboard, will stick to DIL ICs and old style components - in any case I like them and they are better for tired eyes!

[IvIark]

Oh I'd much prefer to use through hole components too and always would if the circuit wasn't too large, my eyes aren't getting any younger.  And I love building on stripboard more than anything, I find it forgiving because of the large tracks, very robust, and it's nice to be able to have a layout to build 30 minutes after first getting the schematic.  But unfortunately for my setup, sometimes the circuit isn't conducive with the method.

[IvIark]

^^^

and that's some big ass board!

[StephenGiles]

^^^

and that's some big ass board!

Yes that was most of the EH Rackmount Guitar Synth, something I want to redo when I pack up work!