Help with board for SMPS

Started by george79, May 09, 2014, 06:49:57 PM

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george79

Hello,
Can anyone help me please?
I need a board for this SMPS,but i cant use good eagle or other software for boards.I need the following SMPS.



Thanks
George

george79


J0K3RX

Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

george79

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Save me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I prefer single side for easy home made with ironing method!!!!!!!

Thanks again for the reply!!!

Seljer

#4
I recently made a SMPS (buck boost to generate a negative voltage) without any PCB at all! Just some pliers to snip of bits of copper clad and superglue, making up the layout as I went along....And it worked the first time I turned it on (and in working, it fried my output cap because I didn't have any load connected so the voltage started rising).



But yeah, not sure if I'd want to do the same for higher voltages  :-X

thomasha

Hi,

some layouts from this forum:





I made a layout on Eagle, but never tested it, and for SMPS for audio a good layout is very important because of the noises that this thing produces.

Made a max1771 smps instead and it works fine.

Cheers,
Thomas

J0K3RX

Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

jubal81

Great layout. I see C11 is a small package. Do they make high enough voltage caps that size?

J0K3RX

Quote from: jubal81 on May 10, 2014, 07:50:14 PM
Great layout. I see C11 is a small package. Do they make high enough voltage caps that size?


Yeah man... I built this a few years ago but if I do recall mine were 4.7uF 400V and 470uF 400V... average size I would say

Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

duck_arse

if there is anybody interested in some custom wound toroids for this type power supplies, please let me know.
I feel sick.

Lurco

Quote from: J0K3RX on May 10, 2014, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: jubal81 on May 10, 2014, 07:50:14 PM
Great layout. I see C11 is a small package. Do they make high enough voltage caps that size?


Yeah man... I built this a few years ago but if I do recall mine were 4.7uF 400V and 470uF 400V... average size I would say


Average size of a  470uF 400V usually used to be larger than a tube. Where did you get those tiny ones?

george79

WORKING LIKE A DREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks a lot JOK3RX!!!!!!!  :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin:

lietuvis

here is another one compact layout

J0K3RX

Quote from: george79 on May 17, 2014, 03:47:56 PM
WORKING LIKE A DREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks a lot JOK3RX!!!!!!!  :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin: :icon_biggrin:

george79 - That's good news!!




Quote from: lietuvis on May 18, 2014, 08:28:18 AM
here is another one compact layout



That's a nice compact layout but keep in mind that the inductor coil and IRF740 can get smokin hot!
Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

J0K3RX

Quote from: duck_arse on May 11, 2014, 07:54:48 AM
if there is anybody interested in some custom wound toroids for this type power supplies, please let me know.

That sounds cool! What you got?  I would like some small, low profile transformers also, those that will produce HV for preamps..
Doesn't matter what you did to get it... If it sounds good, then it is good!

duck_arse

at the moment I have 17mm o.d. cores which are a bit big. I'm looking for smaller at the moment. tell what inductance you want, which booster circuit you're using, and I'll wind.
I feel sick.

george79

what is a suitable load for this SMPS output for testing purposes???i have tried a 230v neon indicator lamp.try a resistor or something else?

duck_arse

ohms law will tell you both the resistance and the power rating of a resistor you can hang on the output. how many volts do you expect, and what current do you want?
I feel sick.

Transmogrifox

Quote from: george79 on October 14, 2015, 07:28:21 PM
what is a suitable load for this SMPS output for testing purposes???
A resistor gives you control.  You can adjust it to the expected load, or try some min load, max load values.

R = V/I
where V is output voltage and I is intended output current.

Don't forget to make sure your resistor power rating is up to the job:
P = V^2/R = I^2R = V*I 
P is power and all 3 relationships are valid depending on what you want to used to calculate it.

You can make a load bank with resistors in parallel and/or series to get the power dissipation for each resistor within its rating.  A typical rule of thumb is to aim for less than 80% of their rating.
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PRR

> neon indicator lamp

Neon bulb is a -negative- resistor. Once glow begins, higher current makes LESS voltage drop.

In all normal uses, a neon must have a series resistor to prevent current going to "infinity" and bursting the bulb.

For power supply testing, a neon load makes no sense. (A neon just for indication may make sense; but neons are going out of style, modern LEDs can make better indicators for >1mA supplies, and you still need a dumb resistor to be the load.)

Yeah, what others say. Friends:
V/I=R
V*I=P

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