Pedal I own has cement putty over the entire board and felt glued to the bottom.

[Belanger]

So a a pedal builder who I won't name built this Pedal and the entire board is covered with not goop but cement putty. I'm screwed arnt I, there's no way of safely removing this ever is there😕  Why in the world would anyone ever do that.   It was a expensive pedal to. Luckily I bought it on Black Friday. I wanted to modify it because I really don't like the sound of it at
All I may just take the circuit out and re use the enclosure because it's graphics are wicked
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Also can anyone tell me what benifits are there to the way he wired the 3pdt with resistors like this.  Just curious   Only components I can make out are the reverse polarity diode and 2x 1000uf 10v caps which is new to me. First time I've ever seen that myself but I'm new at this. 10v isn't good though. What happens years from now if I have a problem with those caps. I'm screwed because he felt the need to put concrete on my circuit board. Gahhhhh stupid

[whoisalhedges]

Um... wow.

Is it against forum rules to name the builder? If so, totally understand - but it almost might be a public service to share if not. I mean, on the one hand, I respect the rights of a designer to keep a circuit proprietary; but unless there's a 100% lifetime guarantee, you're screwed if that breaks (as is anyone else who buys from this builder).

[theehman]

Send it to the guys at the "other forum".   I'll bet they can degoop it, trace it out and suggest improvements.

[canman]

You *might* be able to slowly chip away at the putty with some old crappy wire cutters you don't mind beating up...snip off little chunks at a time, might work.

Kinda strange for a builder to want to keep the circuitry proprietary, but then have fairly sub-par soldering on the switch and jacks (in my opinion).  Not saying my soldering is perfect, but I'm not sure about some of those solder joints.

Not to mention the wiring...!

[Belanger]

Exactly!! This was before I started to really learn about pedals and great builders that do things right like Brian Mena And the gentleman from VFE who literally describes what every section of every pedal he makes on his websites.  Why would you ever want to have this be what your known for. Ok I'm going to try what you said. I'm really Intrested to see what it is that's under this now and id like access to at the very least the two 1000uf 10v caps so I can increase them to at the very least 16v. id really like to be able to make it's a usable, reliable pedal. Worse case scenario I'll take it out and use the enclosure and try to get this stuff off and if it breaks it then I'm really going to get it off so I can get a good look at this circuit that's suppose to be entirely original to his company alone and is so secret you have to dump cement on it like you in the mafia

[Belanger]

How can I do this!! I don't even use it so honestly it would be worth doing for sure

Send it to the guys at the "other forum".   I'll bet they can degoop it, trace it out and suggest improvements.

[GGBB]

This seems worth a shot: http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=1139.msg7713#msg7713

[J0K3RX]

If it was expensive, why don't you just sell it? Seems like big loss to gut it and just use the enclosure.. 

From what I have seen most builders that goop the livin hell outa their pedals it's not to hide some never before seen magical circuit they came up with but rather to hide the fact that they copied some other well known design...

If it sounds as sh!tty as it looks then why even bother digging into that cement covered POS?

If you're not gonna tell us who done it then perhaps you can tell us what it is..? overdrive, distortion, fuzz etc..

I don't know bout you but, I work damn hard for my money and I would be highly pissed off if I got a supposedly "high end pedal" and I opened it up to find a hot mess like that inside!

Sell it for a quarter of what you paid for it and then go buy 4 or 5 joyo pedals lol

[anotherjim]

"Also can anyone tell me what benifits are there to the way he wired the 3pdt with resistors like this"

If it was for only myself and it was a convenient place, I just might put resistors there - but I know from experience how someway or other the bodies will hit the switch tags and wear thru the epoxy coating. If it's for somebody else and I had to put them there, they would at least be in a bit of shrink tube for an extra level of security.

Curious that putty - it looks like its mainly there to keep the wires in check - it doesn't cover all the board components - but it isn't gripping all of the wires either.

[Belanger]

I feel bad selling it lol   In his defence I can return it to him for cost of shipping so I give him that.  At least he's willing to make things right   I didn't find that out until this morning

Also he said " I add the putty because of people who feel the need to steal my circuits"

[duck_arse]

build that xray machine, see thru the putty.

[J0K3RX]

I don't really have anything against people gooping or obstructing their designs but, that nutty putty is just retaded...  Give the damn pedal to me and I'll take the board out, set it on my driveway and drive my car over it a few times and we will see if Unicorns bleed 

[Ice-9]

Also he said " I add the putty because of people who feel the need to steal my circuits"

Putty is probably there to hide the fact it is likely a clone of someone else's circuit anyway.

[robthequiet]

Does it by any chance soften with water? Maybe a wet cloth might wear it down to the point that you could get at the components?

[GGBB]

Also can anyone tell me what benifits are there to the way he wired the 3pdt with resistors like this.

I'd like to know that too. What exactly is going on there? It looks like fairly standard 3pdt wiring with 2M2 (or 3M3) resistors between pcb input and ground (no problem with that), and between pcb output and the output jack - this I don't get. I am of course assuming that my guess at what lugs connect to what is correct. Anybody?

[duck_arse]

they look like 330k to me. mojo pulldown madness?

[GGBB]

they look like 330k to me. mojo pulldown madness?

Yes - 330k - I counted my fingers wrong.

Pulldown madness for sure. That just makes it weirder - 330k between output jack and pcb out???

[LightSoundGeometry]

 3 3 x 10^3 = 33000 is 33k I believe?

my bad ..its orange orange yellow is 330 K

[bloxstompboxes]

I look at this wiring and don't feel so bad about my own anymore.

[thermionix]

The 10v caps might be wired in series, but not too many people would do that.