Radio In My Wah Pedal

Started by Paul Marossy, January 25, 2017, 11:51:50 AM

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Paul Marossy

So this morning I had a visit from the radio station again. This time I more closely looked at the cause of it and found that the problem originated at the output jack. Once again if I wiggled the cord a little bit the problem went away. I also noticed that its ground depends on its contact with the enclosure since there is no ground wire soldered to it so I added a wire from the sleeve to ground. I'm confident that was the problem, the dodgy ground in conjunction with the coil cable apparently acting like an antenna.

stallik

So, you could isolate the jack from the chassis then earth through a variable resistor. Make it foot-switchable and you could use it for an intro to a song ala Floyd

Glad you found the issue
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

Agung Kurniawan

This is one is happen to my BOSS MT-2, once I set the gain pot at max, the treble at max, middle were max, and mid freq about 3o'clock. Its like russian talk to each other (while I live in Indonesia)
Multiple gain stage followed by some active EQ is delicious.

bool

A wah circuit directly feeds back the output to the input node - it "injects" what the output receives back into the circuit, and since the output impedance isn't super-low the circuit does actually "receive", so what happened to you isn't surprising ...

Paul Marossy

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Quote from: bool on February 13, 2017, 07:24:24 AM
A wah circuit directly feeds back the output to the input node - it "injects" what the output receives back into the circuit, and since the output impedance isn't super-low the circuit does actually "receive", so what happened to you isn't surprising ...

That's a good point. Apparently it doesn't take much of a dodgy ground to turn it into a one station radio. The weird thing is that in heel down it's loudest and at the other end it almost disappears. I guess the pot acts like a volume control too when I'm tuning into whatever talk radio station it picks up.  :icon_lol:

bool

Stuff like that can mess up your Hi-Fi amps - it's not uncommon for RFI to creep back into the amp via speaker cables; find its way back to the input LTP via the NFB and mess up the workings ...

One way to make these symptoms less severe is to add a RC filtering to in/out nodes of your pedal.

In your case, I would try to solder a 220pF cap across the output jack ("hot" lug) and the shortest contact to the metal case (ie. "ground")

With a bit of trial and error, you should be able to minimize the "radio"; with adjusting the cap value and listening to changes in to the wah tone. (there will be some so it's a compromise...)

Paul Marossy

Quote from: bool on February 15, 2017, 07:31:53 AM
Stuff like that can mess up your Hi-Fi amps - it's not uncommon for RFI to creep back into the amp via speaker cables; find its way back to the input LTP via the NFB and mess up the workings ...

One way to make these symptoms less severe is to add a RC filtering to in/out nodes of your pedal.

In your case, I would try to solder a 220pF cap across the output jack ("hot" lug) and the shortest contact to the metal case (ie. "ground")

With a bit of trial and error, you should be able to minimize the "radio"; with adjusting the cap value and listening to changes in to the wah tone. (there will be some so it's a compromise...)

Thanks for the tip. If the problem should appear again, which I don't think it will but if it does, I will try that.