Tube screamer input and output buffers

Started by POTL, February 08, 2017, 04:33:05 PM

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POTL

The Screamer has input and output buffers based on transistors
In modern distortion pedals buffers are generally not used, all of a sudden it dawned on me that you can opt out of these buffers.
As we know from the theory of the buffers have a gain coefficient equal to one, and therefore does not amplify the signal, so they do not make changes to the sound.
For myself, I made two assumptions:
1) They change the input and output impedance
2) This is the inheritance of the buffered bypass
The article anatomy Screamer I read that the input buffer improves work with wah pedals, but because the rest of the distortion pedal with no buffer at the entrance of great friends with wah pedals.
I would like to ask experienced people that will remove if bhodnoy and output buffer, what are the pros and cons I get.
I know that there is a scheme called son of Screamer, but I had never been heard live and was not able to compare with the original

Renegadrian

Yeah you're right in basically all your sentences...I have built some, the son of screamer is good but it lacks some volume to my ears, while the buffered version has a good volume. Last one I built!?
Just in between!!! Only input buffer!!! you can look at the mxr zakk wylde zw44, basically it's just another sd1/ts variation with only input buffer...it's enough to me...
Done an' workin'=Too many to mention - Tube addict!

thermionix

I also prefer to have the buffers, but the Son of Screamer sounds really close to a stock TS808.  To me it's just a slight difference in feel, mostly on the lower notes, due to the impedance differences I guess.  Maybe some phase thing in there too.  I don't rule out that it's just my imagination, it's a very small difference.