Dynamo Screamo

[Kipper4]

Heres another idea I intend to develop.
I present the beginings of the Dynamo Screamo.
An enveloped Tube Screamer. The harder you hit the strings the higher the gain.

[digi2t]

Can we call it the "Screamadora"?

[Kipper4]

The only Dora I know is an explorer.

Please elaborate Dino. I'm not following. Thanks.

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/doratheexplorer/images/8/87/Dora.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130205142909

[ElectricDruid]

Nice. I like the idea. You're really getting into this enveloped dynamic stuff, aren't you?

Tom

[digi2t]

The only Dora I know is an explorer.

Please elaborate Dino. I'm not following. Thanks.

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/doratheexplorer/images/8/87/Dora.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130205142909

Not the same circuit, I know, but same principle, no?

[pinkjimiphoton]

in the expandora, its for sustain i thought.

real nice rich!

i got one called a dynamic treble booster somneone did years ago kicking around still in my archive.. the harder ya whack it, the brighter sounding it gets.

i look forward to watching this develop! too bad it's a toob skreemer.

man. i hate them things. never could get a tone i was happy with out of one.

[Kipper4]

Ahh I see. I don't want to step on Gus's toes. Cheers Dino.
I can see how clicks might be a problem too.
"Edited out stupid comment here"
I thought about it because I stuck a drive pedal in one channel of the "Mark Hammer idea"
Because of the crossfaders action, hence clean guitar and drive pedal are always present there's no problems with clicks.
Maybe I'll go with that instead. I'll do a ghetto lab demo.
@Tom sure I am. I like this kinda stuff.. It probably wouldn't have happened had it not been for you though. So I thank you sir.
I really like how with a tube amp set at the sweet spot how playing dynamically can start to break up or remain cleanish. Something I've only relatively recently discovered since getting my first tub amp. I don't know why I didn't get one years ago.
I love my solid state but tube has a validity too.
So I guess it comes from that a bit too.

I've had some wonderful tuition from the likes of Duck, Hammer, Giles,the synth world and so many more it would be a shame not to use it and share with you guys. Even if I'm reinventing the wheel.

I've already done an enveloped tremolo and an enveloped phaser.

@Jimi yer I built that too, only trouble is I couldn't get it to work well or at all if I remember right.
So the tube screamer gets no love from the fuzzmeister. Maybe I'll stick a fuzz in the cross fader for you see how it goes.

I am pleased to see Gus included some parallel resistors with the ldr, something I thought would be essential for a good operating point.

Carry on good people. Dora it is then.
Rich

[pinkjimiphoton]

man, i'd LOVE to see a dynamic fuzz!!

yeah,  i've tried to like tube screamers and have owned several, but they never stay long. i LOVE my boss super od, which is almost the same circuit.... go figure... but it's that nasal thing i don't like. maybe its cuz i tend to crank the mids pretty hot on my amp already.
beats me!!

so the dynamic treble boost didn't work, eh? well, i guess that explains why i didn't find much on it other than the web archived schematic. looked like a good idea at the time, i even drew up a vero but never actually got to it.

for all intents, isn't the expandora kinda a tricked out rat with an opto comp and clipping options tied on? i haven't looked close at the schematic, i did a repair on one recently and it was a major pain in the ass!! the bypass switch was basically exploded, which was a real bear to get out.. i hate trying to desolder stuff from double sided boards. had to desolder the jacks just to get it open to do the switch.

i really loved the "forbidden" mode on it... crank it up and total fuzzy goodness.

anyways... carry on rich!! i can't wait to see whatcha come up with bro

[Kipper4]

PLEASE note this is not the dynamo Screamo demo It is in fact The circuit from the "Mark Hammer Idea" thread.
An enveloped Crossfader (not crossgate. my phone auto corrected the spelling before i had time to notice the typo and uploaded it) Using a sili fuzz as a second effect and a clean guitar as the other.

here
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=117301.0

[pinkjimiphoton]

be still, me bleedin' heart!!

i diggit rich!!! that is cool as @#$%!!!!!!

[duck_arse]

that axis fuzz, sounded like something .....

I rekon you should try sling the opto across D.A. (the other)'s metal screamer second stage, see what happens then.

the academy want you to host the oscars next year, rich, are you free?

[Kipper4]

@jimi Thanks. It's just some silicone fuzzy badness.
If you like it try an Axis face with a Germ PNP. I think you'll like it.

@Duck
Something good? Something bad?

Which metal scream is that? the BSIAB? or another mate.

Free for the Oscars ..... Nah mate I can't get out of the envelope.

[pinkjimiphoton]

that is badass.....

Nah mate I can't get out of the envelope.

butcha know what rich, if ya got the breadboard space handy, try a monkey balls circuit, and have the envelope control the balls control,
if i'm right,  it would be like a swelling in octave by how hard ya play... may be kinda cool

i'll try and get video of that thing for today. its kinda cool, its an octave up, but more of an overdrive than a fuzz one. instead of using a transformer or diodes, its using a treble booster to push the upper end of one of my stupid overdrives. i think when ya hear it, you may diggit.. an octave up ya can use on your treble pickup, and still have sustain with a fairly natural tho slightly gated decay.
with an echo or reverb behind it, i could see the octave sound really being neat being dynamic. the bias pot swept would make it more or less gated and i don't think would work as well.. but that soaring sound.. @#$%.. its 420 here, brb.. gonna do some stuff and makes a video...

sorry... llike i said... its a 420 state of mind...
this idea is really cool rich, it needs a bit more drive behind it tho i think... have you tried it with a fuzz in the loop into an slightly overdriven amp? i would love to hear that, too

[pinkjimiphoton]

is there a way to reverse the envelope, so you could have the fuzz swell in on the note decay instead of the attack?

that seems like it may sound cool with something with a lot of sustain, like a bmp or something

[Kipper4]

Yes there is a way. At least i think so.
I'll update the thread. Keep an eye on it.

Have you a link a thread for the monkey balls Jimi?

[sergiomr706]

Having the envelope reversed would be like mark hammer contrafrizz more or less? In fact i was thinking of this fx, i was trying to draw a layout for the contra one and the string damper. But this fx you have in the breadboard, kipper is a kind of wrapper that could be used for lots of differents colours.  Sure it will finish as an amazing project

[duck_arse]

jimi - do you really want your balls swelling?

kppr - something, I just don't know what, cause there wasn't enough of it. (it might only be nothing.) and deadastro's metal screamer, the one with a shirt load of gain in the second stage. I think he hadda 1M feedbacker or summink, that'd go well with the ldr. maybe.

just read what it says on the card, no worries.

[Kipper4]

Found it thanks Duck.

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