Amp In A Box input & output impedances

Started by POTL, July 27, 2017, 06:42:34 PM

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Quote from: POTL on August 09, 2017, 01:34:03 AMOK one more question...

That one is complicated.



R4 does not go to a groundy point, but to an amplified inverse of the input (Q1 Drain).

Read "Miller Effect". Works for resistors also.

If we assume Q1 has voltage gain of 10, then R4 acts-like around 1Meg/10 or 100K, as far as the input signal knows.

It is not easy to predict the gain of a MOSFET used as an amplifier.

Also here the gain can be reduced with a Gain knob. When way-down the gain is about unity, and R4 acts-like about 500K.

If this bothers you, on a MOSFET R3 and R4 can be MUCH higher, maybe 10Meg. Now the input is likely 1Meg for most cases.

Parallel with R2, yes.
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Quote from: POTL on August 09, 2017, 01:44:44 PM
1) As I understand, the default output impedance is 2K7
Actually, I was trying to set a reference value to start - that's why I've wrote "as it is" - and then proceed it with  transconductance calulations...  :icon_wink:

Output impedance of an Emitter follower (with specific components values) isn't "absolute" but it's ruther expessed in relation with previous stage output impedance Rs and it's calculated by re in series with Rs/(hFE+1)
(paralleled by the usually omited in calulation RE..)

More simplified, in case of FET, it's just 1/gm, provided Source resistor (alone or in parallel with load) >> 1/gm

IMHO, that's a compomise - like setting sole re as the output impedance of an Emitter follower..

But, as usually, they already are well said by Greg..  :icon_biggrin:
"I'm getting older while being taught all the time" Solon the Athenian..
"I don't mind  being taught all the time but I do mind a lot getting old" Antonis the Thessalonian..

POTL


Today Marvel Drive assembled and decided to warm it up with AMZ Mosfet Booster, there was a problem - the tuning of the first transistor was lost.
Solved the problem by installing a shunt resistor at the output of the booster (set it between the output capacitor and ground).
The question who does not work correctly is the AMZ circuit, since it does not have a shunt resistor at the output (for example, in ZVEX SHO or EQD Black Eye, it is either a normal resistor or a volume control).
Or is there something wrong with the input impedance of Marvel?