Guyatone Rolli Phaser LED always on

Started by garfo, April 14, 2018, 04:31:51 PM

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garfo

I've got this Phaser recently and had to replace the battery clip. The pedal works but I'm not sure if it's operating as it should.
The way the pedal is wired is very weird and perhaps very old school as there is an output jack with a lot of pins, 8 I believe.

1-The LED is always on no matter if the effect is on or off. I have seen other descriptions and watched videos of other pedals from the same Guyatone line where the LED stays on as a Power indicator but I have also seen videos of the same pedal switching the LED on and off. It's very intriguing and I have no idea how to make this LED operate as it should in a functional way.
2- there seems to be something wrong with the Phasing as there seems to be a lack of low end in general. the pedal does Phase and does it's thing but it sounds as only a part of sound spectrum goes into phase while the other stays stale.

I would appreciate if anyone who has or had one and knows where I should be looking into.
The Green squares show one side of the Led that is connected to the board where it is directly wired to a germanium diode.
The Black squares show the other Leg of the LED that is connected to one of the 8 pins on the output jack.



thermionix

The black squares seem to show a connection to Lug 1 of a pot, so there's a fairly good chance that's just ground.  That's all I got without a schematic.

idy

It's hard to make things out from the photo, even as high res as it is.

Two pole foot switch... Either it's not true bypass (board input always connected) or the LED isn't switched at all but is always on... Or there is some kind of "millenium" LED switching. Can you tell? Maybe draw out for yourself just the bypass switch and what is attached to it?

Kipper4

Or it could be working as intended.
I think idy has a point about the the dpdt switch for bypass and the led is maybe a battery indicator.

The reason you don't hear much phasing in the lower end might be to do with phase in the low end tends to muddy the signal not in a good way. As I recently was reminded of in a chorus/vibe type thing.

Is it a Ross variant?
When you look at the componant side does it have lots of op amps and transistors?
Ma throats as dry as an overcooked kipper.


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