Relay bypass candidate

Started by knutolai, June 28, 2018, 12:44:44 PM

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knutolai

I've been using the Panasonic TQ2-L2-5V for my relay bypasses for years, but they are quite prices and I want to explore other candidates. Skimming through DigiKey I found the AGN relay family (from Panasonic too).

The one I'm most interested in is the AGN210A03Z. It's a 3V, single coil latching relay. In comparison the TQ2-L2-5V is a 5V, dual coil latching relay. These differences are fine for my designs as all I will have to do is change my relay footprint and voltage regulator. I'm more uncertain how the the relays other parameters will affect it's applicability as a bypass relay.  Thoughts?

AGN210A03Z specs:
https://www.digikey.no/product-detail/en/panasonic-electric-works/AGN210A03Z/255-3356-1-ND/6187877


Coil Current   33,3mA   
Coil Voltage   3VDC   
Contact Form   DPDT (2 Form C)   
Contact Rating (Current)   1A   
Switching Voltage   125VAC, 110VDC - Max   
Turn On Voltage (Max)   2.25 VDC   
Turn Off Voltage (Min)   -   
Operate Time   4ms   
Release Time   4ms   
Features   -   
Mounting Type   Surface Mount   
Termination Style   Gull Wing   
Operating Temperature   -40°C ~ 85°C   
Contact Material   Silver Palladium (AgPd), Gold (Au)   
Coil Power   100 mW   
Coil Resistance   90 Ohms

Additionally the switch resistance is max 100mOhm which seems great for audio.

TQ2-L2-5V specs:
https://www.digikey.no/product-detail/en/panasonic-electric-works/TQ2-L2-5V/255-1007-5-ND/251779


Coil Current   40,0mA   
Coil Voltage   5VDC   
Contact Form   DPDT (2 Form C)   
Contact Rating (Current)   1A   
Switching Voltage   125VAC, 110VDC - Max   
Turn On Voltage (Max)   3.75 VDC   
Turn Off Voltage (Min)   -   
Operate Time   3ms   
Release Time   3ms   
Features   -   
Mounting Type   Through Hole   
Termination Style   PC Pin   
Operating Temperature   -40°C ~ 70°C   
Contact Material   Silver (Ag), Gold (Au)   
Coil Power   200 mW   
Coil Resistance   125 Ohms


PRR

> AGN210A03Z specs:
> Mounting Type   Surface Mount   
> Termination Style   Gull Wing


You are OK with this mounting? (It would explain some of the price difference.)
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knutolai

Oh absolutely I do smaller smd stuff regularly. Should probably have specified that in the original post.

PRR

Switching audio is an easy task for any relay. (At first-- they often have troubles over the years.)

A relay is an imperfect audio switch, very abrupt, so anti-pop measures may be needed. But that's true for any mechanical switch (even manual/stomp).

I don't see a problem.
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knutolai

Thank Paul! Looking at the coil current of 33,3mA I should be able to drive the relay coils directly with a ATTiny84 microcontroller (max output current of 40mA per I/O pin). I'll report my findings in a few weeks.

Let me know if anyone's interested in the bypass code (Arduino based for ATTiny).

knutolai

So the boards and components arrived and everything works flawlessly. The ATTINY drives the relay coil. The gull wing pins of the relay are very easy to solder. Thanks again PRR for your reassurance  :D