Jansen little brute mark 2

Started by Vinnie500, March 25, 2020, 10:13:07 PM

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Vinnie500

Hello, I am looking for different ideas on a project I am working on. I am going to modify a practice amp into a bass pedal for a bass playing friend. There are a few reasons why... this particular amp has nostalgic value from his younger punk days, it is a good way for me to learn while mucking around with something reasonably complex but not that vaulable, and this particular bass player has a habit of wandering around the rehearsal space with boutiqe or vintage pedals bouncing along the floor while being dragged behind him. I figure the amp will be heavy enough to remind him of it's presence.

The three sounds he want's/uses in a pedal are; a very simple low pass filter, a distortion overdrive with dry blend or just not much loss of low end punch, and an over the top feedbackie gitchy noisy fuzz.

I have finished drawing up a schematic (due to the country being in lock down) and it has really hurt my brain. Hopefully the errors (which I am sure there are many) are obvious to spot and easy for me to solve. If not I will redraw it in Xcircuit to learn something else during this project.

Anyway thanks in advance for any thoughts or corrections people may have.


Vinnie500

I started tracing this to xcircuit so it was readable and thought I might just email Jansen (a New Zealand audio company) and ask if they kept their old schematics and turns out they do.


iainpunk

how about using the headphone out as the output of the pedal, going to a 3pdt switch to be mounted on the top of the amp.

in what extent were you planning to modify the actual circuit of the amp? just a bypass switch, or a full overhaul of the preamp?
friendly reminder: all holes are positive and have negative weight, despite not being there.

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Vinnie500

More of an overhaul. Like overdriving the second stage of that op amp or clipping diodes. Not sure yet I am hopefully going to get some time in the garage today. So I will try a few things and see.
I just thought more expericed people may be able to suggest some ideas, but I'm happy to experiment.

PRR

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> a habit of wandering around the rehearsal space with boutiqe or vintage pedals bouncing along the floor while being dragged behind him. I figure the amp will be heavy enough to remind him of it's presence.

So what do you want? If you condense the Brute you get just another 1-chip 2-jack 3-knob floorbox which is easy to drag around. The stock Brute is heavy because it has a 10 Watt power amp and speaker; but you could as well nail a Hammond box to a concrete brick and get a drag-resisting pedal.

Wireless??
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Vinnie500

I take your point. I guess what I'm saying is yes it will be just another three knob... but it will be in an akward and iinconvenient enclosure with a unnecessary 8" speaker. So I guess I just like the idea of it... others probably won't.
Anyway I will learn some stuff while doing the mods, already have, but anyway nevermind I'm sure I will work it out.

PRR

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Vinnie500

Well while trying to add a clipping diode circuit I cooked the 556 transistor. On the way to working that out I replaced the opamp to a opa2312 and the bc550's to bc508's. And by happy accident now I have fuzz, so cool.
I do wonder about why I get fuzz now? is it the transistors or the opamp, or both? if anyone has time to give me a quick explantion that would be appreciated.
I will keep trying to figure it out myself in the mean time.

Vinnie500

I put clipping leds from pin 1 to ground and got the distortion I was after when playing through the mini brute power section. However when I plugged into to the preamp out as PRR described I get no distion from that output. Just thought  I would see if someone my be able to point out why, while I try to figure it out.