Geniuses needed for solving our virus problems when re-opening

Started by aron, May 07, 2020, 03:19:41 AM

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aron

Given what we know of the virus and the way it is transmitted (to date - this may change),


How can a recording studio operate a sound booth (singer) with multiple people coming and going?


How can singers perform in a restaurant as a band without breaking the "rules".


Do you think live music is going to die until we have a vaccine or treatment?


Usually this would be OT, but we got a lot of smart guys here and maybe we can find answers to the above.
Of course all of this goes out the window if they find out it is spread as an aerosol easily. But assuming the current situation....
Any ideas?

EBK

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bushidov

Well, here may be an example where cupping the mic actually serves a purpose?
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patrick398

I guess we'd need to know how long the viruses lives on surfaces like microphone grilles. Have microphones on rotation? So after being used they spend the appropriate time in quarantine. For live performances, perhaps we could all play behind drum kit screens

Electron Tornado

Just get set of these, but leave them closed and play the gig inside of them:



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Marcos - Munky

Down here, we don't have to worry on how to perform on pubs and restaurants, and how to do a record session... because those places are closed. Well, pubs and restaurants can still "open", but they work limited to delivery and take and go services.

We are doing "live concerts", which is basically the band playing (each one with their own instrument and mic), nobody on the crowd, and a smartphone transmitting the "concert" to youtube. Not even closer to the real thing. Unfortunally, down here live music is dead so far :icon_sad:

iainpunk

we just put every band on a huge a$$ stadium and everybody has to keep 1,5m away from each other.

and we provide hazmat suits for the moshpit

cheers,
Iain
friendly reminder: all holes are positive and have negative weight, despite not being there.

cheers

EBK

Quote from: iainpunk on May 07, 2020, 09:30:19 AM
...and we provide hazmat suits for the moshpit
Nah. Just make the mosh pit a giant pool of Lysol.
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aron

Jim, I was thinking about larger pop screens. Do you think that would be sufficient? Most singers say they can't sing with a mask on.

R.G.

In sad bit of realism, we're not going to re-open to where we were last year until some time after we have a widespread and effective vaccine or treatment that cures. If then.
I hate thinking this way, but until that happens, we're going to be patching together isolation and disinfection, punctuated by bouts of hot spots.
But the need for innovative ways to isolate and disinfect is real as a stop gap. We really need that.
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Nasse

We have small ozonizing device at fire station(bit smaller than Marshall stack) and manufacturer claims it is safe for electronics and such but it is limited in size what fits inside, but I see some drawbacks. Dont know If steam cleaner would suit for cleaning. If singing booth might be used as sauna in between sessions, it would be clean after temperature and humidity drops at normal level. Vokaloids are not yet good enough. Or just have extra rooms and Neumanns so you store used ones quarantined enough weeks till circle starts again


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Mark Hammer

Quote from: R.G. on May 07, 2020, 12:22:11 PM
In sad bit of realism, we're not going to re-open to where we were last year until some time after we have a widespread and effective vaccine or treatment that cures. If then.
I hate thinking this way, but until that happens, we're going to be patching together isolation and disinfection, punctuated by bouts of hot spots.
But the need for innovative ways to isolate and disinfect is real as a stop gap. We really need that.
I suspect clever minds are already working on the products to assist with that.  It is a growth market, after all, and a business opportunity.

I'm trying to imagine that average honky-tonk stage on Broadway in Nashville, which is often not a whole lot bigger than the average en suite bathroom.  Drum kits and amps are going to have to be smaller to allow for appropriate spacing of bandmates.  Orville Peck will likely be hailed as a visionary, rather than a weirdo.

vigilante397

I've read several articles that say a serious singer should find a mic that they like the sound of and plan on bringing it to every gig. Don't bring your $10 Nady, but if you have a decent mic (I finally got myself a Beta 87A ;D ) bring it along.
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Digital Larry

Negative pressure microphones whose exhaust bubbles through disinfectant.
Fog machines with disinfecting fog.
Sharp increase in ventriloquists as lead vocalists as they can sing with their mouths mostly shut.
Those tesla coil speakers which zap the heck out of everything, stay back though!
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Nasse

And how about more The Spotnicks tribute bands, remember they used spacesuits in the 60s so it has been done. No problemo within band but the audience problems still not solved

Maybe marketing research and profiling could be done, only not very talented less interesting musicians should used so stadion or concert hall will never be full. We should think how to make it sound bad, not too good

There was a "wasteland" festival in my hometown, on snow dumping place and forest and unused ole military or railroad field, but IT became too popular, but you could have distance


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amptramp

A minister in Rome, Georgia in the US wanted to organize an outdoor church service set up like a tailgate party where everyone parked on a grass field with columns of pickup trucks staggered like bricks so every truckload would be at least six feet from every other truckload.  (We Miata drivers would be excommunicated.)  Bands might do the same thing.  The usual venues from bars to stadium rock are going to be dead for at least a year, so alternative venue arrangements are going to be necessary.

Fancy Lime

Shotgun mics at 6 feet away and room dividers between band members on stage would sure change some live performances. Gigs in overstuffed tiny clubs will be off for a while. But Summer is coming on the Northern Hemisphere and outdoor gigs are much more doable while maintaining safety measures such as 6 feet distance. Drunk people are going to be a problem, though.

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aron

> The usual venues from bars to stadium rock are going to be dead for at least a year
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[/size]This is just mind-blowing.
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[/size]This can be re-written as: almost every single musician will probably be out of a job for at least a year.
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[/size]I like youtube as much as anyone, but wow.... really...
[/size]I guess if musicians get tested, then they can sing without mask, but then they can get infected by patrons....
[/size]I guess if the stage is far away from the patrons.... I don't know.